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Did Rudy Finally Strike Out?

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Posted on Fri Apr 30, 2021 at 05:04:14 PM EST
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Rudy Giuliani is playing dumb. He feigns surprise the FBI didn't want his hard drives with Hunter Biden's material.

As if he doesn't know the FBI is investigating his activities, not Hunter's, regarding the Ukraine.

The FBI warned him and the Trump Administration that Rudy was the target of a Russian disinformation campaign to influence the election. Update: The Washington Post and NYTimes have now retracted the allegation that Rudy was formally warned by the FBI. [More...]

I also don't think Rudy is out of the woods in the case of his indicted former business associate and friend Lev Parnas. Parnas has been providing Congress with information since his indictment, in hopes it may result in a lesser sentence -- DOJ under Trump wasn't interested in giving him a cooperation deal, according to his lawyer Joe Bondy, so Bondy went to Congress.

I wonder if that's changed under a DOJ led by Merrick Garland. And what about Victoria T? There are so many people that could, and I believe would, hand Rudy that final strike in a heartbeat if offered the chance.

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    Being the second personal lawyer raided (5.00 / 2) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 30, 2021 at 05:27:15 PM EST
    and likely soon to be indicted it's starting to feel like they are after bigger fish.

    There is so much bad history linked to Rudy and Ukraine.  It could bring down the whole house of cards and I absolutely agree with Cohen, Rudy will rat on Donald in a NY minute to save himself.

    We could see proof a sitting US President was a willing asset for Russia.  Among other things.

    Also (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 30, 2021 at 05:28:59 PM EST
    Cohen didn't really know anything good.  Rudy knows a lot.

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    Cohen (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun May 02, 2021 at 04:49:55 PM EST
    might not have known much when it comes to campaign collusion with Russia but I bet he had a ton of valuable information when it comes to payoffs and tax fraud.

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    I didn't even know the FBI had one (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Apr 30, 2021 at 08:18:46 PM EST
    Turns out that the FBI used their buttprint file to identify Rudy's cellphone.

    Wow. Liz Cheney is digging in (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Chuck0 on Mon May 03, 2021 at 04:45:44 PM EST
    and doubling down. I swear the devil is looking for earmuffs and warm coat.

    I'm (none / 0) (#24)
    by FlJoe on Mon May 03, 2021 at 05:03:08 PM EST
    sure Lizzy has some hellfire to deal out to keep things warm up her. Spawn of the spawn of the devil and all that.


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    Good for her. (none / 0) (#25)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon May 03, 2021 at 05:06:04 PM EST
    Liz Cheney is Exhibit A for why one should never burn one's bridges politically. Today's opponent may become tomorrow's ally, which is quite resourceful when confronting a mutual and formidable adversary.

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    Yes (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 03, 2021 at 05:55:43 PM EST
    "We can't embrace the notion the election is stolen. It's a poison in the bloodstream of our democracy. We can't whitewash what happened on January 6 or perpetuate Trump's big lie. It is a threat to democracy. What he did on January 6 is a line that cannot be crossed."

    -- Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), quoted by CNN.



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    That cannot be crossed (none / 0) (#27)
    by jondee on Mon May 03, 2021 at 06:05:02 PM EST
    I'd say it's already been crossed -- by nearly the whole effin' wingnut cavalry.

    To extend the metaphor, hopefully the end result will be like what happened when the English crossed Sterling Bridge.

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    It hard for me to imagine (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 03, 2021 at 06:18:14 PM EST
    what outcome republicans like McCarthy expect from this that would be good for them.

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    McCarthy (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon May 03, 2021 at 07:55:55 PM EST
    truly has completely lost control of his house members. It really is a free for all. But the guy defended Marjorie Taylor Greene and her idiocy making room for the inmates to run the asylum.

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    That's (none / 0) (#28)
    by FlJoe on Mon May 03, 2021 at 06:17:27 PM EST
    a bright red line. Nice timing also, the insurrection was beginning to fade into oblivion.

    A simple question for every Republican, "which side are you on?" No straddling allowed.

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    Embarrassing (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 03, 2021 at 08:31:13 PM EST
    to swing and miss

    House Republicans are moving closer to ousting Conference Chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) from leadership, and are already considering replacements -- including Reps. Elise Stefanik (R-NY), Ann Wagner (R-MO) and Jackie Walorski (R-IN), congressional aides tell Axios.

    "The conference meets next Wednesday, May 12. Most members expect the process to oust Cheney to begin then, whether formally or informally, after some of McCarthy's top lieutenants broadened their complaints against her."

    "It would take up to a two-thirds vote of the 212 caucus members to replace her -- a relatively high bar if a secret ballot is held."




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    What message? (none / 0) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:10:18 AM EST
    Exactly

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told Fox News that Republican lawmakers want to replace Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) in their leadership because she isn't "carrying out the message."



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    This message: (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 06, 2021 at 05:23:48 AM EST
    LINK.

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    Morning Joe and Jim Vandehei (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 07:19:25 AM EST
    just said something I agree with.  Many random factors suggest republicans might have a good year in 22.  But in a way the worst long term outcome for them might be that they narrowly win back the house and think it happened because of their great ideas for the direction of the country.  Making them even more the Trump party before the next presidential election.

    It was an interesting conversation.  They said what I have been saying, which is yes some things suggest a good year for republicans but the fact is the crop of republicans who win primaries are going to make MTG look like a centrist.  And lots of them are going to lose the General.  But even more important it could allow them to win a battle and lose the war in the next election.

    If republicans won the house the country will instantly be thrown into gridlock and congressional investigations of Mr Potatohead and hamburgers.  Which after two years of prosperity and growth and sane functioning government under democrats will be a stark contrast.  

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    Frank Luntz (none / 0) (#91)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 08:53:22 AM EST
    Trump Could Cost Republicans In 2022 and 2024

    May 6, 2021 at 8:47 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 71 Comments

    GOP pollster Frank Luntz told Kara Swisher that former President Donald Trump's campaign to undermine faith in elections could backfire on the Republican party.

    Said Luntz: "I think the greater impact that -- okay, I haven't said this before. This could cost the Republicans, the majority in the House in 2022. What Donald Trump is saying is actually telling people it's not worth it to vote. Donald Trump single-handedly may cause people not to vote. And he may be the greatest tool in the Democrats' arsenal to keep control of the House and Senate in 2022."

    When asked if Trump could win the presidency in 2024: "If Donald Trump runs for president as a Republican, he's the odds-on favorite to win the nomination. He could never win a general election, but I can't imagine losing a Republican primary. That's how significant he is within the GOP. And yet he's lost all of those crossover voters that would deny him the chance to win in a general election."



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    I would say (none / 0) (#92)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 08:56:40 AM EST
    if he runs or not he is going to drive democratic turnout.  Right thru the roof.  In 22.

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    There are some (none / 0) (#96)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 06, 2021 at 02:26:51 PM EST
    predictions that all these attempts to keep people from voting are going to drive them to voting in record numbers.

    I actually don't see anything going for the GOP in 2022 other than they are the party out of power.

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    Because of Trump (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 05:12:45 PM EST
    last election saw the most voters in the history of elections.  In the middle of the worst pandemic in living memory.  

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    Very smart move (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:34:55 AM EST
    to replace the one woman in GQP leadership with a white guy from Indiana

    Jim Banks rises

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    Here's what I think (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:37:48 AM EST
    I think they won't succeed because most republicans agree with Liz even tho they are afraid to say so.

    I think many republicans are trying to let Trump be Trump expecting an indictment will be the ultimate solution to their malignant Orange tumor.

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    IF there is (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:38:23 AM EST
    a secret ballot.

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    McCarthy and Cheney (none / 0) (#39)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:09:01 AM EST
    Duking it out for leadership of the Republican House.

    McCarthy has no future standing on a foundation of lies. Cheney is the future of the party.

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    I'm seeing (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:30:13 AM EST
    a Vader/Obiwan like conversation

    If you strike me down, Kevin, I will become more powerful than you can imagine.

    And she totally would.

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    I think so too (none / 0) (#42)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:48:19 AM EST


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    And man do I dislike Cheneys (none / 0) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:52:00 AM EST
    All of 'em

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    Me too (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 10:59:07 AM EST
    DfromH said something about this I think.  We have to stop vilifying people we disagree with on policy.  No matter how much we disagree with them on policy.  

    Liz, and even Dick, are not autocrats.  I'm as surprised as anyone and just as likely as anyone here to have called the Cheneys autocrats.  And worse.  But they are not.  Bush is not.  Romney is not.  Which is slightly encouraging that the recent past leadership of the party are not ok with Trumpism.

    Autocracy is the common enemy we have.  We can disagree later.

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    It is the culture (none / 0) (#47)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 04, 2021 at 01:43:08 PM EST
    war that really is the problem. If the GOP would drop that it would ease a lot of the tensions in the country. I mean do we really need bathroom bills and in Florida genital examination of children?

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    The hatred of others (none / 0) (#49)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 03:44:18 PM EST
    That is part of their culture war is so repulsive. They have to be shedding moderate Republican voters.

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    But, Lindseybelle (none / 0) (#41)
    by KeysDan on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:40:43 AM EST
    says Lara Trump, Eric's wife, is the future of the party.

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    He is such a follower (none / 0) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 09:49:47 AM EST
    His leadership was only ever as good as who he was following.

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    I think (none / 0) (#46)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 04, 2021 at 01:37:11 PM EST
    most Republicans actually disagree with Cheney. I think Cheney has the backing of about 30% of the GOP. I think GOP leadership is hoping for an indictment of Trump to rid them of him but the rank and file hopes he runs again.

    I also think an ouster of Cheney won't come to a vote because it could show how many Republicans are actually insurrectionists and treason appeasers.

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    So you think McCarthy (none / 0) (#50)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 03:45:20 PM EST
    Is bluffing trying to get Cheney to fall in line?

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    She ain't getting in line. (none / 0) (#53)
    by Chuck0 on Tue May 04, 2021 at 06:13:38 PM EST
    Perhaps this will mark the beginning of a true split in the GOP. The could be sidelined for years.

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    No (none / 0) (#54)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 04, 2021 at 06:29:50 PM EST
    Cheney is not going to "get in line". I just don't think going to a vote and getting rid of her helps him one bit. It actually makes things worse because right now while she infuriates the Trumpers they will still vote GOP but if McCarthy jettisons Cheney then he has 30% of the GOP walk.

    Also a vote is more evidence of a GOP civil war and the party being completely co opted by Trump.

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    Hey, you might be right (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:18:02 AM EST
    Ernst is calling for peace. She isn't agreeing with Liz, just calling for peace. Cheney wants McCarthy's job though. I don't know if Wyoming will re-elect her if she doesn't get it too. My old Wyoming classmates are wildly crazy these days, they reek of misogyny, the women as much as the men.

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    IMO (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:33:00 AM EST
    This has become a win/win for Liz.  If this blows over she wins.  If they remove her she is instantly elevated to national status, Moreno if she loses reelection,  and runs for president as the last sane Republican after the party destroys itself over the next few months.

    Jan 6 is going to stay in the news.  The trials are going to start.   Liz isn't keeping it in the news.  

    In spite of the universal opinion she is doomed to be removed from leadership I never thought she was.

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    MORESO (5.00 / 1) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:34:46 AM EST
    if she loses reelection

    stupid spell correct

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    I can't see where she lands yet (none / 0) (#65)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:50:55 AM EST
    Running for the Republican nomination in 2024 seems like a strong possibility. Comstock is now worried and voicing concern about the longterm damage to the party going after Cheney could do.

    If Cheney could unseat McCarthy Wyoming would fall all over themselves to vote for her again. If she isn't re-elected I'm not sure she will have the enthusiasm of the voters that she needs.

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    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:58:55 AM EST
    Now, but,

    I believe the events in the next few months related to Jan 6 and possible Trump indictments related to that and god only knows what else could change the entire landscape for her and for the party.

    That's what I think could happen.

    I also think she and probably a lot of other republicans expect some version of this.  

    And if not she's Liz Cheney.  Not like she has to worry about future employability.  She can take a longer view.

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    You are right (none / 0) (#69)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 12:42:35 PM EST
    Her Daddy's roots go deep deep deep around here. Much deeper than tea party spin offs into insurrectionist play dates. Who knows what she already knows is likely coming down the pike?

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    Some (none / 0) (#73)
    by FlJoe on Wed May 05, 2021 at 01:32:57 PM EST
    people are saying Papa Dick started the "Deep State".

    Sorry Hillary meet the new Queen of the underground.

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    That's a pretty good indicator (none / 0) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 03:13:02 PM EST
    of just how deep and serious the split in the party is.  Fortunately, with the Cheneys there can be no confusion about what the dispute is about.

    This is not about moderate or extreme right wing policy disagreement.  Everyone knows what it's about.  There can be no confusion.  

    You tell the big lie or you are the enemy.  Really doesn't seem like a winning strategy.  

    I agree with the theory it will not change until they lose.  Probably more than once.  Losing is the only thing that will get their attention.

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    Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#78)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 05, 2021 at 04:29:26 PM EST
     says that it is going to take like 10 years of losses for them to get the message. I figure they know since they used to be part of the GOP.

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    I messaged one of my old classmates (none / 0) (#80)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 04:58:34 PM EST
    Who is a practicing attorney in Cody, WY. Asked him what the Liz sentiment in Wyoming was like right now. He said it was terrible, she is hated. I asked him if indictments taking down Trumpers occurred, would Wyoming sign back on for supporting Liz. He wasn't sure. He said the Wyoming Conservatives love Matt Gaetz. He did not sound well about any of it.

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    What are (none / 0) (#81)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 05, 2021 at 05:18:59 PM EST
    they going to do if Gaetz is indicted? Scream deep state and frame up I guess. The party is Trump at this point.

    What a mess but yet the press still thinks Biden should be "bipartisan" with them.

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    Another reason it's good to be (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 03:27:31 PM EST
    a Cheney

    Liz Cheney's Big Donors Stand With Her

    May 5, 2021 at 4:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 33 Comments

    "Liz Cheney's top financial supporters are standing by her despite a move by House Republicans to remove her as conference chair," CNBC reports.

    "Some even say they will withhold contributions to anyone who opposes Cheney. That signals a split in the wealthy Republican donor ranks between big-money financiers who continue to back former President Donald Trump and those more aligned with Cheney's views that Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square."



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    WaPo OpEd (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 04:37:55 PM EST
    Liz Cheney Says `History Is Watching Us'

    May 5, 2021 at 5:28 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 26 Comments

    Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) writes in the Washington Post:

    "While embracing or ignoring Trump's statements might seem attractive to some for fundraising and political purposes, that approach will do profound long-term damage to our party and our country. Trump has never expressed remorse or regret for the attack of Jan. 6 and now suggests that our elections, and our legal and constitutional system, cannot be trusted to do the will of the people. This is immensely harmful, especially as we now compete on the world stage against Communist China and its claims that democracy is a failed system."

    Cheney also notes that Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) once said Trump "bears responsibility" for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol but now "McCarthy has changed his story."

    It's behind a paywall

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    My best (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 05, 2021 at 12:02:43 PM EST
    guess is that if she loses reelection she either leaves politics for good or uses that as proof that the GOP in its current state is unsalvageable and rounds up the Republicans that don't want to be beholden to Trump anymore and forms a third party.

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    She's told her allies she isn't (none / 0) (#70)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 12:46:12 PM EST
    Going to fight McCarthy's BS. She says it isn't worth. I bet Howdy is right and she knows indictments are being proofed.

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    If she gets (none / 0) (#74)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 05, 2021 at 01:52:46 PM EST
    told things by the Lincoln Project which obviously knows things too then she may know about indictments coming down the pike. Rumors are there is supposed to be a big one today but so far nothing.

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    I agree (none / 0) (#66)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 05, 2021 at 11:56:00 AM EST
    with the win/win until you get to losing reelection. I am seriously starting to think we have a repeat of the Whigs here with the Trumpers being the Whigs. Getting rid of Liz Cheney could be the impetus some conservatives need to start another party.

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    January 6. (none / 0) (#71)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 05, 2021 at 12:58:52 PM EST
    Still no 911-type Commission.  Attempts for a bipartisan study have become futile with Republicans demanding inclusion of BLM and other distractions.  Which is, actually, all to the good in that a bipartisan commission would start off compromised by Republicans in that respect for integrity of elections is a disqualified in the Republican Party.  

    Including seditionists and. Insurectionists in a commission trying to get to the bottom of sedition and insurrection does not auger well for getting to the bottom of it all.  A Presidential Blue Ribbon Committee needs to be appointed with dispatch.  Perhaps, one chaired by former Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, David Souter, filled in with experts in law enforcement and intelligence as well as academic and business leadership.

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    A commission sounds like a good idea (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 01:14:26 PM EST
    History should have a record beyond news footage.

    But no one who should care would care.

    So far the best answer to Trumpism and it's lies have been the courts.  There are hundreds of trials and presumably sentencing of insurrectionists coming.  IMO there is no better message than sending them to jail. Many will go to jail.


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    Yes, an (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 05, 2021 at 02:03:44 PM EST
    indictment-by-indictment and conviction-by-conviction will send  a message but may not tell the story.  The Big Lie will be the Republican Party platform in 2022 and 2024.  The full story needs to be uncovered and unraveled so  as not to allow the truth of the insurrection to fade away.  It may not be enough that several fascist potato farmers from Idaho got jail time for their Trump exuberance, the plot, pattern and inciters need to be publicly laid out, in my view.

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    Kevin is shy (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 09:07:03 PM EST
    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy is concerned about being called as a witness by a commission looking into the events of January 6th, CNN reports.



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    Rawstory (5.00 / 2) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 08:18:35 AM EST
    "Cheney's rupture with the House Republican Conference has become all but final in recent days, but it has been months in the making. Edelman revealed that Cheney herself secretly orchestrated an unprecedented op-ed in the Washington Post by all ten living former Defense Secretaries, including her father, warning against Trump's efforts to politicize the military," Glasser reported.

    "The congresswoman not only recruited her father but personally asked others, including Trump's first Defense Secretary, Jim Mattis, to participate. 'She was the one who generated it, because she was so worried about what Trump might do,' Edelman said. 'It speaks to the degree that she was concerned about the threat to our democracy that Trump represented.' The Post op-ed appeared on January 3rd, just three days before the insurrection at the Capitol," she reported.



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    This is huge (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 11:48:46 AM EST
    What did she know?

    We were terrified at this time too. We knew from the Pentagon moves Trump was making that he wanted January 6th to lead to some kind of martial law.

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    This is just beginning (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 12:06:20 PM EST
    kicking her out is Fort freakin Sumter for the republicans.

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    I just don't know (none / 0) (#101)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 12:12:22 PM EST
    We are months and months down the road. Is there any investigation going on other than rounding up the incited mob?

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    What I meant was (5.00 / 1) (#102)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 12:26:19 PM EST
    I think this is the beginning of the split.  The beginning of the civil war.  She is throwing down the gauntlet.  

    There are not many supporters now.  Let's check again later.  This is the Cheneys we are talking about.  Dick practically invented the stab them in their sleep long view of politics.

    All kinds of things could happen now that would change all kinds of things.

    What if Rudy flips and confirms everything we know about Trump?

    For example.

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    Spoke to my daughter today (none / 0) (#103)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 12:48:58 PM EST
    We talked about voting. She said her generation does everything via tech. She has never written a check. As soon as you can vote using tech, she's says they will all vote. But as to politics she says her generation has grown up watching no accountability for terrible deeds. She says the news covers spats, treats gossip like it is news, and those in power get away with illegalities all the time. She said it is hard to care about any of it. Just duck your head and live your life.

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    This is the (none / 0) (#105)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 07, 2021 at 02:04:50 PM EST
    attitude of my 28 y.o. son and 27 y.o. DIL. However youngest son, Generation Z, is VERY involved in all of this. I think Parkland galvanized them. It started with the Sandy Hook shooting and then Parkland was the tipping point. They also were old enough when Parkland happened to see that in a few years they could vote and start to change the trajectory of the country.

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    Yeah (none / 0) (#104)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 07, 2021 at 02:00:08 PM EST
    I agree. Cheney being removed is going to set off a full scale civil war though this really has been simmering for decades but finally has come to a head.

    What do you think she will do? Do you think she will start another party, leave the GOP or stay? Apparently she has money backing her which apparently the insurrectionists do not. Lindsaybelle was just on TV whining about how nobody was giving them money.

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    If if had a guess (none / 0) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 07, 2021 at 04:47:31 PM EST
    I would expect her to fight to save the party her family has been royalty in our whole life.

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    I just listened (none / 0) (#107)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 07, 2021 at 07:40:36 PM EST
    to a podcast where basically they agreed with what you have been saying though their thoughts were that Cheney was tight with the intelligence community and knew all the dirt that was going to come out on Trump. And that she is going to win in the end.

    People are now saying that Cheney should demand her removal via public vote instead of secret ballot. She then will have a record.

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    If you woulda told me 25 years ago... (5.00 / 5) (#82)
    by kdog on Wed May 05, 2021 at 05:59:44 PM EST
    that I would one day be an example of law abiding Joe Citizen of New York, and Rudy would be an example of the common criminal degenerate...just wow what a world lol.

    Unless Trump pays Rudy (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 07:02:09 PM EST
    you might catch Rudy at 42nd and 8th with a squeegee and a dirty rag washing the windshields of the bridge and tunnel crowd.

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    I think I would find it very difficult (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Peter G on Wed May 05, 2021 at 08:49:39 PM EST
    to set a fair fee for that much terrible legal work and embarrassingly bad P.R.

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    OTOH (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 09:00:04 PM EST
    Trump was not removed from office and he is not in jail and slightly less than half the country thinks he won the election so arguably it worked.

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    Bipartisan (5.00 / 1) (#149)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 12, 2021 at 02:01:43 PM EST
    Shortly after leaving the infrastructure meeting in the Oval Office with President Biden, Vice President Harris, Senate Majority Leader Schumer, Speaker Pelosi , and Leader McConnell, Kevin McCarthy announced he met with "corrupt Joe Biden" and discussed his radical socialist agenda.

    A good strategy for President Biden.  Maybe it will dissuade Manchin on the merits of dealing with those.negotiating in bad faith.  

    Fake news (1.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue May 04, 2021 at 03:46:51 PM EST
    The Washington Post and NYTimes have now retracted the allegation that Rudy was formally warned by the FBI.

    No word yet on how this fabrication got past layers and layers of fact checkers.

    No, actually not "fake news" or (5.00 / 5) (#57)
    by Peter G on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:56:39 PM EST
    a "fabrication." Perhaps you did not read yesterday's in-depth exposition by the WaPo of how it came about that they published this erroneous story. Because they are real journalists, who would independently investigate and publish a self-examination. Their reporter was misled by a well-placed source (presumably an FBI agent). The reporter did not make it up; they just published something that they had failed to corroborate ... as journalists all-too-often do with "law enforcement sources." And of course, the most important fact was true: Giuliani was in fact the target of a Russian propaganda influence campaign. The issue is only that the FBI after considering warning him about how he was being used, ultimately decided not to because he was the subject of a criminal investigation, which they feared compromising. How is this supposed to make Giuliani look better, and how would publishing that erroneous story (which named him as a victim) constitute a libel of him, as he now absurdly claims?

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    Other things (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 30, 2021 at 10:07:14 PM EST
    A raid by federal agents of an apartment and office belonging to Rudy Giuliani has left allies of Donald Trump feeling uneasy about what could come next, CNN reports.

    Said one Trump adviser: "This was a show of force that sent a strong message to a lot of people in Trump's world that other things may be coming down the pipeline."

    link

    A short letter (5.00 / 3) (#5)
    by Repack Rider on Sat May 01, 2021 at 09:57:49 AM EST
    Dear Mitch,

    How do you like me now?

    Signed: Attorney General Merrick Garland

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    Political retaliation and payback (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Peter G on Sat May 01, 2021 at 01:06:05 PM EST
    have no place in law enforcement, as Garland would be the first to affirm. What is new and different here is a willingness to follow the facts, regardless of where they may lead.

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    By blocking him from sitting on SCOTUS (none / 0) (#8)
    by Militarytracy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 01:42:57 PM EST
    They freed him up to repair our DOJ. I think it is likely I might be eternally grateful. He is restoring my faith in my nation in a way he may have never been able to sitting on the court.  

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    The ones on the court (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 02:04:42 PM EST
    may have a chance to restore some faith.

    One of the ironies of the story may be that Trump is ultimately undone by the very supreme court he packed so carefully.

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    They are not going to restore faith (none / 0) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 02:41:35 PM EST
    Alito's whine-ed about feeling like he can't rule the way he "wants to" or the number of justices will be expanded made that very clear.

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    100% (none / 0) (#6)
    by Militarytracy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 12:49:23 PM EST


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    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 05:19:52 PM EST


    10 (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 01, 2021 at 06:54:47 PM EST
    Federal agents seized at least 10 phones and computers from Rudy Giuliani during the dramatic Wednesday morning raid on his Manhattan apartment, Reuters reports.

    link

    Feeding bothsiderism (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 02, 2021 at 10:01:40 AM EST

    News Outlets Retract Reports FBI Warned Giuliani

    May 2, 2021 at 10:11 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 12 Comments

    The New York Times, Washington Post, and NBC News issued corrections to clarify that Rudy Giuliani did not receive advance warning from the FBI that he was the target of a Russian influence campaign.

    link

    Likely following a demand for retraction. (none / 0) (#15)
    by oculus on Sun May 02, 2021 at 11:51:17 AM EST
    See media lawyers.

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    As far as feeding bothsiderism (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 02, 2021 at 12:05:00 PM EST
    that would be printing the story.  Not retracting it..

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    Confused, given the subject (none / 0) (#17)
    by oculus on Sun May 02, 2021 at 12:40:29 PM EST
    of your first post.

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    Add a ring to the circus (none / 0) (#19)
    by Peter G on Sun May 02, 2021 at 06:17:35 PM EST
    Dersh agrees to represent Giuliani on "constitutional" issues. He pretends not to know about DoJ policy and regulations on the use of search warrants to obtain evidence from a lawyer. His "banana republic" comment is pretty funny, coming from the favorite lawyer of the original "lock her up" guy.

    And speaking of "Lock her up!", ... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon May 03, 2021 at 12:48:23 AM EST
    ... Gen. Michael Flynn, that Überest of Patriot Guys who led that chant at the 2016 GOP Convention and later elocuted to numerous anti-American felonious acts after pleading guilty to lying to the FBI, fired up the crowd at a pro-Trump rally for a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, before promptly forgetting the words.

    "Repeat after me: I, [your name], pledge allegiance to Hedley Lamarr - That's 'Hedley'! - and to the evil for which he stands. Now go do that voodoo that you do so well!"
    - Hedley Lamarr (Harvey Korman), "Blazing Saddles" (1974)

    These people are so thoroughly beyond parody, I can hardly stand it.

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    Not to be too pedantic, I hope, but (none / 0) (#21)
    by Peter G on Mon May 03, 2021 at 09:35:39 AM EST
    the defendant's plea to the court is an "allocution" not an "elocution."

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    Thank you for the correction and ... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon May 03, 2021 at 05:00:53 PM EST
    ... the link to the definitions. It's like the terms "port" and "starboard" to me. I really should know the difference between the two by now, but nevertheless I mix them up constantly. They must be filed in the lazy part of my brain.

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    Easiest way to remember. (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by Chuck0 on Mon May 03, 2021 at 07:19:34 PM EST
    Port is 4 letters, left is 4 letters.

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    Interesting story from legal-English etymology (none / 0) (#31)
    by Peter G on Mon May 03, 2021 at 07:22:23 PM EST
    "Allocution" derives from "allocutus," which in medieval legal Latin, as used in early English courts, referred specifically not to the prisoner's speech addressed to the judge, but actually the opposite.  Allocutus was the formal requirement that before imposing a sentence of death (which at the time was the penalty for all felonies) the judge had to address the prisoner (who at that time had no  right to testify in his own defense) and ask whether s/he had anything to say before judgment was pronounced. That was the prisoner's opportunity to plead one of the few defenses to capital punishment, to wit, pregnancy, insanity, benefit of clergy, and royal pardon. The ritual was mandatory, and if judge did not perform it, no execution could be carried out.

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    Locutus of Borg (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 03, 2021 at 08:26:05 PM EST
    "Locutus" came from Latin and means "the one who speaks" like in the word locutor. Picard was not Locutus of Borg, he is more like the Locutus of Borg, but the Locutus could be anyone else. They choose Picard to do that because he was the "locutus" of the Enterprise on their first encounter.



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    Pay me (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 04, 2021 at 03:03:38 PM EST
    "As a federal investigation into Rudy Giuliani escalates, his advisers have been pressing aides to former President Donald Trump to reach into a $250 million war chest to pay Mr. Giuliani for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election on Mr. Trump's behalf," the New York Times reports.

    "The pressure from Mr. Giuliani's camp has intensified since FBI agents executed search warrants at Mr. Giuliani's home and office last week, according to people familiar with the discussions, and comes as Mr. Giuliani has hired new lawyers and is facing his own protracted -- and costly -- legal battles."
    Deja vu all over again. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Chuck0 on Tue May 04, 2021 at 06:10:24 PM EST
    Rudy actually believed he was gonna get paid? Hahahahaha!

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    Don't forget about Mellissa Carone (none / 0) (#56)
    by jondee on Tue May 04, 2021 at 08:15:54 PM EST
    she di-int get any money yet either.

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    This sounded (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 04, 2021 at 06:34:54 PM EST
    to me like extortion. Don the Con had better come up with some money to pay Rudy's lawyers or Rudy is gonna spill the beans.

    My money is on Rudy spilling the beans.

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    We should know in minutes (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 07:52:53 AM EST
    if Trump gets his Facebook megaphone back.

    I've considered returning.  Never if he is allowed back.

    yes! (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 07:55:18 AM EST
    Trump Is Not Allowed Back on Facebook

    May 5, 2021 at 9:01 am EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    Facebook's Oversight Board upheld the company's decision on January 7, 2021, to restrict then-President Donald Trump's access to posting content on his Facebook page and Instagram account, CNN reports.



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    As happy as we are (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 07:59:14 AM EST
    the possible 2024 GQP candidates are happier.

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    But he has a blog (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 05, 2021 at 08:59:41 AM EST
    to defend Rudy and other things.  I won't link but it's Donald J. Trump dot com.

    I was thinking the default setting for comments is probably ALL CAPS

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    The idiots in Arizona who are counting ballots.. (none / 0) (#87)
    by desertswine on Wed May 05, 2021 at 09:34:13 PM EST
    are looking for bamboo in the paper.  Because, you know...  China!  Americans have become too stupid to have a country.

    With UV light (none / 0) (#90)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 08:49:27 AM EST
    Associated Press: "The U.S. Department of Justice expressed concern Wednesday about ballot security and potential voter intimidation arising from the Republican-controlled Arizona Senate's unprecedented private recount of the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County."

    link

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    So many jokes there (none / 0) (#94)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 11:52:43 AM EST


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    The cicadas (none / 0) (#93)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 06, 2021 at 11:23:06 AM EST
    have questions

    In NYC, (5.00 / 2) (#95)
    by Zorba on Thu May 06, 2021 at 12:27:22 PM EST
    they used to say "The most dangerous place to stand is between Rudy and a microphone."

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    Today (none / 0) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 08:10:31 AM EST
    "A key Senate committee is expected to vote as soon as Tuesday to advance Democrats' sweeping elections overhaul, stamping its approval on a landmark voting rights expansion as Washington tries to blunt ballot restrictions by Republican-controlled statehouses," the New York Times reports.

    "If enacted, it would effectively override laws emerging in states like Georgia and Florida that raise barriers to vote with national requirements -- like automatic voter registration, no-excuse early and mail-in voting and the re-enfranchisement of former felons -- meant to lower them."
    Indeed we did (none / 0) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 12:20:24 PM EST
    "We all learned early in life if you can write the rules you can win the game."

    -- Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), quoted by HuffPost, discussing his opposition to Democrats' election reform and voting rights legislation known as the For the People Act.



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    I hate that guy (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by leap on Tue May 11, 2021 at 12:44:00 PM EST
    as much as I despise That Other Guy. Truly a waste of our oxygen.

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    He really is worse (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 01:49:18 PM EST
    because he knows exactly what he is doing.  

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    I (none / 0) (#123)
    by FlJoe on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:58:45 PM EST
    guess he missed this lesson "Cheating is a low down dirty thing to do"

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    I really think (none / 0) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 06:21:29 PM EST
    the freak show in this hearing and the continuing one around this issue will be what breaks the moderate log jam and gets this passed by whatever means necessary.

    If the republicans were the paid PR firm for the democrats they would be doing exactly what they are doing.

    Making it laughably obvious that a.) they will say anything and stop at nothing to suppress voting and b.) there is not the smallest chance of any republican cooperation.  On anything.

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    Unrest (none / 0) (#109)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 09:11:52 AM EST
    Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) told CNN that he believes former President Donald Trump is dividing the Republican Party.

    Said Hutchinson: "Whenever we do not have the president in power from our party, you have divided leadership -- you have many different voices. And former President Trump is dividing our party, and so it's important we not unite with someone who is dividing our party."
    Welp (none / 0) (#112)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 11, 2021 at 01:40:43 PM EST
    his presidential aspirations should be swirling the drain with that statement about Trump.

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    I don't know about aspirations (none / 0) (#113)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 01:48:17 PM EST
    but open opposition to Trump is a growth industry.  It's only elected DC republicans that are cowed it seems

    From Larry Hogan to Joanie Earnst there are starting to be more open resistance to the whole Big Lie package.  It's becoming ok to say it's embarrassing.

    I predict this opposition will grow.

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    I renewed my FaceBook account (none / 0) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 01:55:18 PM EST
    I've spent the weekend surfing.  I found an interesting thing.  The ones who were screaming armed resistance a while back have quietly gone back to obnoxious promotion of their favorite batshi+ thing from more guns to less immigrants.

    Trump has almost disappeared

    They might not be willing to badmouth him openly but they don't want to talk about him anymore.  Even his blog was a total fail.  No one cares about him anymore but they will never admit how disastrously wrong they were.

    But they are moving on.  

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    Adding (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:01:14 PM EST
    The actual reason I reactivated was a simple and grim one.

    In the last few months I have learned of the death of two (2) friends by finding obits.  Both weeks or months after the fact.    Both were friends on FB.  If I had been able to contact not only them but others who know them....

    I hate it and I think it's a plague (and my first post was saying exactly that) but there really is no other replacement for keeping track of far flung friends.

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    His grand blog, (none / 0) (#116)
    by KeysDan on Tue May 11, 2021 at 01:58:43 PM EST
    "From the Desk of...Eric's dad" is a dud.   No comments permitted, just the former guy's wisdom to propagate.  But fewer takers than hoped for.  So sad..

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    Total of (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:04:18 PM EST
    NBC News: "Trump's new blog has attracted a little over 212,000 engagements, defined as backlinks and social interactions -- including likes, shares and comments -- received across Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest and Reddit. Before the ban, a single Trump tweet was typically liked and retweeted hundreds of thousands of times."



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    I know this never works (none / 0) (#119)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:06:49 PM EST
    but seriously, try imagining their name was Obama or Clinton

    Two Trump family members got `inappropriately - and perhaps dangerously - close' to agents protecting them while Donald Trump was president," The Guardian reports.

    The claims are made in a new book, Zero Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Service by Carol Leonnig.

    Leonnig writes that Vanessa Trump, the wife of Donald Trump Jr, "started dating one of the agents who had been assigned to her family."

    She also writes that Tiffany Trump broke up with a boyfriend and "began spending an unusual amount of time alone with a Secret Service agent on her detail."



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    What's the (none / 0) (#137)
    by KeysDan on Tue May 11, 2021 at 06:51:20 PM EST
    big deal.  Malaria, probably.

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    How (none / 0) (#120)
    by FlJoe on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:12:20 PM EST
    else are we supposed to find out about "junky racehorses"?

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    Also from the Leonning book (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:23:04 PM EST
    Another nugget from Zero Fail: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Service by Carol Leonnig, via The Guardian: "The president did repeatedly seek to remove Secret Service staff he deemed to be overweight or too short for the job."

    Said Trump: "I want these fat guys off my detail. How are they going to protect me and my family if they can't run down the street?"



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    This (none / 0) (#122)
    by FlJoe on Tue May 11, 2021 at 02:49:20 PM EST
    It's only elected DC republicans that are cowed it seems
    still baffles me.

    I also believe that tRump the man is fading away, but the GOP congress seems to be in thrall to his ghost.

    Both McCarty and McConell were pretty harsh on tRump shortly after the impeachment but they both changed course, McCarthy especially.  What made them fold so quickly?

     

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    I would love to think he has (none / 0) (#124)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 03:04:19 PM EST
    compromising video (maybe of Lindsey) but I really think it's as simple as it looks.  And in one way Lindsey is right that they can't win "without him".  Because without him would not mean he is a neutral unhelpful bystander but he would be their enemy and would absolutely destroy the party if they tried to shut him out.  His fan base might be shrinking but it still plenty big the sink nearly every every one of them.

    And I think he totally could. And would.

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    So (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 03:06:51 PM EST
    have fun republicans

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    I (none / 0) (#127)
    by FlJoe on Tue May 11, 2021 at 03:38:44 PM EST
    don't think it's the base voter that they are particularly worried about, as you have pointed out they appear to be losing interest, I think they could have mostly ignored tRump post impeachment #2 and paid little political price.

    I am beginning to think that the real problem that the GOP has, is that the true believers have taken control of the lower and mid levels of the GOP. Many county and state committees are dominate by tRump cultists.  

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    I had to look (none / 0) (#129)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 11, 2021 at 04:16:37 PM EST
    after you mentioned Ernst. I am now laughing about Ernst screeching "cancel culture". The monster conservatives have created has come full circle around to eat them up.

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    They have met the enemy (none / 0) (#130)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 04:21:46 PM EST
    and it is them.

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    Now Jeff piles on (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 04:55:39 PM EST
    Jeff Flake: "On Wednesday, Rep. Liz Cheney will most likely lose her leadership post within the House Republican Conference, not because she has been untruthful. Rather, she will lose her position because she is refusing to play her assigned role in propagating the `big lie' that the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump. Cheney is more dedicated to the long-term health of our constitutional system than she is to assuaging the former president's shattered ego, and for her integrity she may well pay with her career."

    "No, this is not the plot of a movie set in an asylum. Ladies and gentlemen, this is your contemporary Republican Party, where today there is no greater offense than honesty."

    link

    Bob Corker can't be far behind

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    Hmm (none / 0) (#132)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 11, 2021 at 05:36:58 PM EST
    the only one that might carry any weight is Ernst since corker and Flake have already been identified as "rinos". Even at that I am now willing to be Ernst is going to be another designated "rino".

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    I'm reminded of a meme (none / 0) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 05:44:19 PM EST
    any discussion of RINO would probably need to start with definition of what the name even means or if it means anything

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    LOL (none / 0) (#135)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 11, 2021 at 06:37:21 PM EST
    I think "rino" means "they are not doing what I think they should be doing". There is no logic, rhyme or reason to it because everyone to the left of Ted Cruz gets called a rino.

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    The 100 million dollar deli (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 03:19:19 PM EST
    It doesn't look like much.

    $100 million New Jersey deli: Ex-Trump tax lawyer owned shell company created by mystery investors

    Your Hometown Deli in Paulsboro, N.J., is no mere neighborhood delicatessen. Despite racking up less than $40,000 in sales over the past two years, the deli's parent company has a $100 million valuation on the over-the-counter stock market.
    CNBC has done some digging into the deli and the mysterious firms and investors linked to it. Here are some recent stories:
    Big fail for Wayne (none / 0) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 04:07:31 PM EST

    Federal Judge Dismisses NRA Bankruptcy Case

    May 11, 2021 at 5:09 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    "A federal judge dismissed the National Rifle Association's bankruptcy case on Tuesday, in a blow to its embattled chief executive, Wayne LaPierre, that cast further doubt about his ability to remain at the helm," the New York Times reports.

    "The N.R.A. had filed for bankruptcy in January in an attempt to circumvent regulatory action in New York by the state's attorney general, Letitia James, who is seeking to shut down the group amid a corruption investigation. Ms. James had challenged the validity of the bankruptcy filing."
    Like the suggestion (none / 0) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 06:47:11 PM EST
    in Endgame to kill baby Thanos

    this is both horrible and funny

    Liz is speaking live (none / 0) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 06:56:55 PM EST
    and she is kinda burnin down the house.

    Wow (none / 0) (#139)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 07:01:11 PM EST
    Not going quietly

    She is calling them out in every way it hurts

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    CNN just said (none / 0) (#140)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 07:14:13 PM EST
    every republican but one left the room while she was speaking.

    Adam Kinzinger I guess.

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    It was Ken Buck (none / 0) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 11, 2021 at 07:56:42 PM EST

    CSPAN
    @cspan
    ·
    38m
    WATCH: Complete remarks from Rep. Liz Cheney.

    "We must speak the truth. Our election was not stolen and America has not failed."

    It's short

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    Done (none / 0) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 12, 2021 at 08:22:52 AM EST
    Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) was removed from her House GOP leadership post by a voice vote.

    Washington Post: "The voice vote to remove her as chair of the House Republican Conference underscored that the party will not tolerate disagreements with Trump, whose active support many argue is needed for the party to win the House majority in the 2022 midterm elections."



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    F U very much (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 12, 2021 at 08:40:38 AM EST
    "If you want leaders who will enable and spread his destructive lies, I'm not your person, you have plenty of others to choose from. That will be their legacy."

    -- Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), quoted by NBC News, in a closed-door meeting of House Republicans.



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    She does (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 12, 2021 at 09:39:00 AM EST
    Liz Cheney Now Has a National Platform

    May 12, 2021 at 10:38 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 30 Comments

    Just an hour after she was ousted from the House GOP leadership, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) sat down for an exclusive interview with Savannah Gutherie of NBC News.

    Thanks to Kevin McCarthy, Cheney now has a national platform to say she's chosen her country over the Republican party.



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    And (5.00 / 1) (#147)
    by FlJoe on Wed May 12, 2021 at 11:08:25 AM EST
    she has made it personal "I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office,"

    IMO she looks more formidable that all the other DC never tRumpers put together.

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    IF she had truly chose her country... (none / 0) (#146)
    by jmacWA on Wed May 12, 2021 at 10:59:32 AM EST
    Cheney now has a national platform to say she's chosen her country over the Republican party.

    She would be speaking out about voter suppression too.  She has chosen her country over TRUMP, but IMO unless she speaks out about voter suppression she is still choosing the Republican Party line.

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    IMO this entirely misses the point (none / 0) (#148)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 12, 2021 at 11:41:34 AM EST
    Liz doesn't care what you think or want.  And there is no reason to expect her to.  She clearly is doing what she thinks is right.  Which coincidentally, IMO, is right.

    Giving her credit for doing that with the background of cowardice and corruption we have here doesn't really seem that hard.

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    14.8 billion (none / 0) (#143)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 12, 2021 at 08:25:35 AM EST

    "More than 73 percent of House members have requested earmarks in the federal highway bill," Roll Call reports.

    "In all, 318 members of Congress submitted 2,380 projects for the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee to consider in its upcoming surface transportation bill... Of those requests, 1,775 came from Democratic members and 605 came from Republican members."

    "The total cost of the earmark requests released Tuesday by the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee is $14.8 billion."
    Playbook (none / 0) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 13, 2021 at 07:14:53 AM EST
    How Palm Beach is preparing for a possible Trump indictment

    : PALM BEACH MAKES CONTINGENCY PLANS IN CASE TRUMP IS INDICTED -- Law enforcement officials in Palm Beach County, Fla., have actively prepared for the possibility that Manhattan District Attorney CY VANCE could indict former President DONALD TRUMP while he's at Mar-a-Lago, according to two high-ranking county officials involved in planning sessions.

    Among the topics discussed in those meetings: how to handle the thorny extradition issues that could arise if an indictment moves forward.

    An obscure clause in Florida's statute on interstate extradition gives Gov. RON DESANTIS the ability to intervene and even investigate whether an indicted "person ought to be surrendered" to law enforcement officials from another state -- which means that as Mar-a-Lago prepares to close down for the season and Trump relocates to Bedminster, N.J., it isn't just the Florida heat he's leaving behind: He could lose a key piece of political protection.

    "The statute leaves room for interpretation that the governor has the power to order a review and potentially not comply with the extradition notice," says JOE ABRUZZO, clerk of the Circuit Court of Palm Beach County, the official who would be in charge of opening a potential fugitive-at-large case.
    I commented (none / 0) (#151)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 13, 2021 at 03:34:32 PM EST
    the other day that now would be a perfect time to let the hammer down on Trump since he is in NJ.

    Fugitive from the law. LOL. Perfect description of what might happen if he tries to hide out in Florida.

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    Is he is NJ? (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 13, 2021 at 03:59:48 PM EST
    I looked briefly and couldn't find when exactly Tara Lago would "close for the season"

    If it a summer thing it might start the end of May?

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    It's (5.00 / 2) (#153)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 13, 2021 at 04:20:39 PM EST
    already been brutally hot down here, too hot to play golf. I would be surprised if he hasn't left yet.


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    It's the NY POST (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 13, 2021 at 04:50:13 PM EST
    for FWIW here

    It says he left Florida Sunday and apparently left Melania and Barron behind in Florida too. The articles says he left after having Mother's Day brunch.

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    Governor DeSantis (none / 0) (#155)
    by KeysDan on Thu May 13, 2021 at 05:42:11 PM EST
    may be able to delay the surrender of Trump to the state of indictment, but surrender would be very likely to happen.  It may take the Supreme Court, even this one, to make it happen.

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    I think we can be sure (none / 0) (#156)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 13, 2021 at 06:34:32 PM EST
    DeSandbag would try.  He would consider it a political gift.

    Meh

    Wait till he is in Jersy

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    Yes, (none / 0) (#157)
    by KeysDan on Thu May 13, 2021 at 08:55:12 PM EST
    he would consider it a gift. New Jersey, and, if he campaigns or has rallies around the country, the fugitive Trump could be nabbed.

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    He's not going (none / 0) (#158)
    by Zorba on Fri May 14, 2021 at 11:16:12 AM EST
    to be able to stop himself from having rallies around the country.  He lives for the crowds cheering for him.  They feed his already enormous ego.

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    Yep (none / 0) (#159)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 14, 2021 at 01:48:22 PM EST
    and wouldn't it be something to have him arrested at one of his own rallies?

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    Even if he is indicted (FYLTGE) (none / 0) (#160)
    by Peter G on Fri May 14, 2021 at 07:07:41 PM EST
    He is more likely to be "summonsed" to court than arrested.

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    Made me lookup. (5.00 / 1) (#161)
    by oculus on Sat May 15, 2021 at 07:03:20 AM EST
    FYLTGE

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