I read your exchange with Geek today and you summed up so well how I feel. I'd like to see Obama win so that his worshipers will be brought down to earth as soon as he compromises on everything/anything. and I'd like to see Hillary win because the media has been beyond unfair.

I fear you're right BTD, that the media will help Obama win and assist Hillary as much as possible to lose. I just think now that it seems that McCain will win, the experience card will hurt Obama.

I considered everything you've said about needing a candidate the media loves, but when it comes down to it, they are not going to influence me how to vote unless it's the opposite of what they desire.

Personally I've had enough of "change" by the Bushistas with accompanying thugishness to last a life time.

This is the Democratic primary and many of the Bloggers have morphed into partisan Blogopundits. They have an audience and they have an obligation to research and to analyze information. They have a right to choose sides, but they also have an obligation to educate their audience on how to find information and how to analyze it. They also have an obligation to allow competing opinions without the infantile attacks. The spewing of the Anti Clinton old vitriol has been absolutely abhoront. A cesspool of hatred that is spawned by the MSM and conservative talking points. In the same way that propaganda machines create the hate talk, they can be used to create the adoration talk. When did you share the opinions and tactics of Russert, Mathews, Blitzer, et. al? Repeating at instances the same distortions? How did you morph into them? Hillary has been demonized and disfigured beyond recognition. How many watched the Reno Gazette videos completely of both candidates? How many have really looked at the Axelrod selling of Obama as a life story rather than a campaign of issues and positions? Did you provide links to independent articles that indicate opposing views? You have taken the "story of the day" typically some out of context statement and focused all the discussion on that in order to demonize the one you did not choose. Demonization is exactly the type of tactic we have opposed in the last few years with the Bush tribe. So, I put you all in the pile heap of the internet. Big Tent Democrat and Digby, are two that have kept their integrity I have learned from their style how to tone down my passions and have been informed by the discussions. I think this primary will give us a shake out, as to who is responsible with the power they have gained and who is not. I think the misogynistic attitude portrayed towards Hillary, which you deny, needs to be explored. Why is the male dominated medium so hateful and yet does not even see how it is hateful? Why is it still ok to demean Hillary by calling her Billary? Why is it ok to diminish her in order to validate your support of Obama. Do some real soul searching and do not diminish our valid accusations. Also, the diminishing of us old party people. Victory at any cost, which you criticize, is destructive.

After watching Obama's snottily turning his back on Hillary when Ted extended his hand to her (and other snubbing actions), showed the same variety of snit-fit our beloved (sarcastic) Decider In Chief has been noted for. Do we really need another petulant boy (mindset, not age) in charge?

But the wagons are circling, and all the losing/withdrawing 'boys' are lining up behind the last 'boy' standing, regardless of his actions or policies.

Does Josh Marshall think he is like John McCain?

Did Josh Marshall write a post condemning Obama's dishonest attack? No, they are still fretting ove the Hillary Florida gambit where Hillary was not dishonest.

I do not condemn Obama, that is politics. Hillary has a vulnerability.

But if these people were not shilling for Obama, they would hold him to the same standard.

"His policies are irrelevant

I'm describing the orientation of voters who would make up a coalition that beats Hillary Clinton.  Obama merely needs policy positions that are palatable to both groups.  It doesn't matter if they are to the left or to the right of HRC."

Fundraising pitches are up at various sites, and I can't bring myself to support them.  Downticket races are being promoted, and I am just sitting on my wallet. Activism is being urged ...  You see the  predicament I find myself in.  

Obama has never been my first or second choice, but I worked at reconciling myself to the possibility that he would be the nominee so that I could support him.  

But this past week especially has made me feel like, well like I'm living in a Lord of the Flies universe.

I'm objective enough to consider that I really share half the responsibility for the ugliness. It's highly possible I really am being a bad (shrill) sport whose uncomfortable with my rude objection as St. Ronnie Reagan let AIDS become an epidemic because the Word was that God was punishing evil gays with it. If only "my" side had kept our heads and not stormed media events things might -- would definitely -- be so different today!

You can't imagine how big an @hole I was when Poppy Bush abandoned the promise that Kuwaiti women would get the vote after Gulf Poppy took on Saddam the first time. Dems and Repugs were united in shoving that teensy issue to the back burner till they finished patting themselves and each other on the back. Who knew that merely asking nice would have resolved silly differences?

I was an uconscionable boor when those hateful divisive Clintons drew the witch hunts on themselves for undeservedly holding elected office. It really is, after all, the job of government to spend millions assailing personal lives for partisan political gain, and "our" side will have that same power when we master the niceties of, "Hi and how'dya'do?"

Don't get me started on how shrill I am when discussing needless war, shredding of the Constitution, and abandoned of rule of law.

Why didn't someone tell me that all that was needed to stop this systematic rollback of human rights was to send someone with a nicer smile and who the pitbulls liked better?

Perhaps, but will they have any readers left other than the shrill Obamabots who can only cut and paste and parrot talking points, but have no real understanding of what is at stake this election? And if Clinton is the winner, will they continue the demonization and poisoning of the well, making her task even tougher in November?

Unfortunately, they are becoming what they profess to hate and are trying to replace - the MSM, which has become a propaganda arm of the GOP, and is no longer the professional press who once took down a corrupt president, but now don't even notice as an even corrupter one has torn our country apart.

If Edwards endorses, before or after Tuesday...that should give one or the other candidate an edge.  I think he'd be smart to do it before the voting but I don't know if he's ready to take that chance.  I think he wants a sure thing...candidatewise.

Regarding "change":

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead