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ISIS released the full version of its latest propaganda video yesterday, "Flames of War." It's available on You Tube here.[new link] The speaker narrating the video sounds American. This struck me as an (unintentionally) funny line, which they attribute to al Qaida's Abu Musab al Zarqawi:

Our last open thread is full, here's another one, all topics welcome.

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    Lewinski (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Uncle Chip on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 07:57:08 AM EST
    Is the St Louis County Grand Jury getting a Lewinski????

    Cops Love Lewinski

    In most cases, Lewinski is called upon to present a scientific-sounding justification for what looks on its face unjustifiable. He tells juries that police have to make split-second decisions if they want to survive, that just because the victim was shot in the back doesn't mean he wasn't a threat. And he does it all with the mantle of authority granted by a tenured professorship at one of Minnesota's public universities.

    Scammer.... and Expensive at $475/hour (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:14:13 AM EST
    Lewinski took an odd path into law enforcement studies. He never wore a uniform himself--he began his career as a teacher and therapist working with mentally disabled children in Ontario, and only shifted into his current focus during his graduate work. His doctorate degree in police psychology is the first such degree in the country.

    Police psychology isn't a field recognized by the American Psychological Association, and although Lewinski calls himself a psychologist, he isn't licensed to practice as one. Union Institute and University, which gave Lewinski his Ph.D., is mostly a distance learning institution, and Lewinski didn't attend any classes on campus during his three-year program. Union Institute doesn't even have an accredited psychology program.



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    Do you have any proof that (1.00 / 1) (#23)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:48:30 AM EST
    Lewinski has been called to testify to the Grand Jury or will be called to testify at a trial if Wilson is indicted??

    If not all you are doing is spreading rumors.

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    the remainder of this sub-thread (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:44:02 AM EST
    has been deleted. It was nothing but personal attacks, name-calling and repetition bordering on blog-clogging. An open thread is not a license to attack and repeat the same thing over and over. Move on to another topic.

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    Proof? (none / 0) (#34)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:24:20 AM EST
    Do you have any proof that Uncle Chip claimed Lewinsky was called in as a witness for the Wilson GJ?

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    When I saw... (none / 0) (#152)
    by unitron on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:26:33 PM EST
    ..."getting a Lewinski", my mind went someplace entirely else, and the next line

    "Cops Love Lewinski"

    didn't help.

    However, wouldn't it be much more likely that this guy would be called in to testify at a trial before a petit jury, should there be one, rather than during the grand jury investigation?

    Do you have any specific reason for thinking he will be associated with this case in any way?

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    I have a French gremlin attacking (5.00 / 2) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:36:37 AM EST
    my Mac.

    Over the course of the last couple of days, I have clicked on Huffington Post only to find that the articles on the far right side are in French. Since my French vocabulary consists of 5 - 10 words, I wish that this gremlim would go visit someone who wants to improve their French.

    It is bad enough to have a poltergeist in my home who likes to hid stuff I need right before I need it but a French gremlin in my Mac is just carrying this whole thing much too far. ;o)  

    Perhaps the same gremlin insists google news (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:49:36 AM EST
    must be the UK version.

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    MO Blue go to Disc Utility (5.00 / 2) (#54)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:34:12 PM EST
    and do all the verify disc permissions stuff we spoke about in the past.  You can do them again immediately if it doesn't clear things up.  Don't worry about erasing the hard drive right now as that is a before going to bed chore.  Or we could fly to Paris, ride up and down the Seine on a Bateau Mouche while you learn more French.  We may have to scoot up to Scotland for more convincing info to hit the doubters with as well.  :)

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    Can I choose door #2? (5.00 / 5) (#130)
    by MO Blue on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 05:57:36 PM EST
    Flying to Paris, riding up and down the Seine on a Bateau Mouche while learning French sounds a whole lot more fun than going to the Disc Utility. Also I have heard from reliable sources, that Scotland is truly beautiful and it is on my bucket list. Just think we could justify the trip (if it needed justification) as doing research.  

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    French (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:51:35 AM EST
    Looks like amichael Jackson kinda. (none / 0) (#55)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:46:53 PM EST
    French Gremlin (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:21:26 PM EST
    Ha! Is it a HuffPo setting? (none / 0) (#9)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:54:36 AM EST
    I know they have different versions. But I went and looked and I don't see how you did that!  Pepe Le Pew has struck!

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    It is the link to HuffPost (none / 0) (#20)
    by MO Blue on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:44:08 AM EST
    that I have used forever. The funny thing is that two of the columns are in English but the far right column (labeled Most Popular) is in French. It doesn't happen all the time. This morning that column was in French but right now all the columns are in English.

    What is even more frustrating is that some of the French articles look (from pictures) to be more interesting than the English version.

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    An impish Rod Serling ghost, mayhaps? (none / 0) (#22)
    by christinep on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:45:17 AM EST
    The problem seems to be spreading (none / 0) (#208)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:38:26 PM EST
    i now have the right column of HuffPo in French.

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    Aren't I nice (none / 0) (#212)
    by MO Blue on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:28:34 PM EST
    sharing my gremlin with you?

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    Thank you for that (none / 0) (#214)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:45:13 PM EST
    when others have a moment visit the click hole and see if you have any French?  Only the front page?  Maybe?

    What sort of device are you using?  Me using an iPad.  Haven't tried it on the desktop.

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    Um, never mind (none / 0) (#215)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:49:25 PM EST
    gone now

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    My gremlin likes to play on my desktop (none / 0) (#219)
    by MO Blue on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:25:09 PM EST
    He is a flighty character. He comes and goes at will and never stays for long. Just when you think he has gone on to greener pastures, he flits back in for a minute or two. ;-)

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    Religious Beat. (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:17:55 AM EST
    Pope Francis accepted the resignation of Chicago's Francis Cardinal George, who is seriously ill (and, at the age for retirement).  Bishop Blase Cupich, Bishop of Spokane, Washington, has been appointed to succeed George. The 65-year old Cupich was formerly Bishop of Rapid City, SD for 13 years.  Bishop Cupich is described as a "moderate," a voguish characterization these days.  Perhaps, the new Archbishop's moderation will no longer equate gays with the KKK--a memorable position of the ailing Cardinal George.

    While opposed to abortion and an active (but, ultimately unsuccessful) opponent of same sex marriage during  consideration by the state of Washington, he is supposedly concerned more with the poor and is pastoral in nature-- in the mold of the Pope.

    Observers have been keen to note the replacement for this large and important diocese.  The Pope reached deep into the ecclesiastical ranks with the appointment of a bishop rather than an archbishop to this post, but  that was apparently necessary to find a moderate.  

    Cupich was, according to his brother, named after Saint Blase, a physician and bishop in historical Armenia (modern Turkey). St. Blase was martyred by beating and beheading by rebels. This saint is called upon by the devoted to intercede in cases of throat disease, especially for fish bones stuck in the throat (Fishcamp, please take note).  

    As a former Catholic schoolboy, I recall that February ritual of having two crossed candles (unlit)  placed on my throat by the priest.  That, as combination therapy with antibiotics, seemed to do the trick for those childhood sore throats.  

    Attention Chicago real estate brokers: The magnificent Archbishop's residence on the northside of the city may be on the market. That six percent commission should set a broker up for life.    

    Feast of St Blaise (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:34:13 PM EST
     with the candles I mean. I always liked that one.

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    The patron saint (5.00 / 1) (#106)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:04:36 PM EST
    of wool combers.excellent

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    And choking boys. (none / 0) (#116)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:24:30 PM EST
    See comment #113 (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:29:41 PM EST
    Somebody had to be (none / 0) (#123)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:50:13 PM EST
    It's not meant to be take literally, it is any manufacturer of woolen products....They have a helluva time

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    For some reason this whole sub thread (none / 0) (#124)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 05:01:44 PM EST
    reminded  me of last weeks Masters of Sex and the guy hilariously wondering if the prostitute trying to deal with his impotence had ever worked as a taffy puller.  

    I really like that character.  I wish he and Betsy Brandt would just get together already.

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    Wool combing -> Taffy Pulling (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 05:23:15 PM EST
    only a detour ADHD could make

    :)

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    Ha! Yes that was a great scene (none / 0) (#134)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 06:36:45 PM EST
    I want them to get together too. Theyd be funny together.

    Bill and Virginia are getting unbearable.

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    KeysDan thank you for your concern. (none / 0) (#58)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:49:50 PM EST
    I too was a Catholic schoolboy but thankfully don't remember the crossed candles event.  Maybe our parish didn't exorcise in the same fashion but we did have strange rituals.  My question to you is how on earth did you find this information about the appointment of the Bishop from far away Spokane, Washington?

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    St. Blaise's Day is Feb. 3. (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by caseyOR on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:09:43 PM EST
    and I, too, remember the crossed candles at the throat blessing given to every child in my Catholic grade school. If we were getting the candle-throat blessing that meant Ash Wednesday was coming soon.

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    So, dumb question (none / 0) (#113)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:17:25 PM EST
    not on wiki, what does fish bones and sore throats have to do with wool combing?  How did those things get combined?

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    Me too .... (none / 0) (#119)
    by christinep on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:33:06 PM EST
    I still try to get to Mass on February 3rd for the blessing of the throat with the memory of "May St. Blasé, Bishop & Martyr, protect you from all diseases of the throat" deeply ingrained for me.  

    From briefly reading about this Bishop Blasé, it seems that his personal approach is to call for discussion and a return to "civility" rather than the language of condemnation used by many Church leaders in the pre-Pope Francis times.  

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    Just an ENT for (none / 0) (#62)
    by KeysDan on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:02:38 PM EST
    news--ears, nose and throat.  

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    Speaking of Spokane (5.00 / 3) (#69)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:24:22 PM EST
    The very first downhill ski race I won was up on Mt. Spokane.  The finish gate area wasn't quite as organized back in the 50's as they are now.  I shot off the end of the run and landed on the roof of a station wagon down in the parking lot in full ski racing regalia.  No damage but the family was having a tailgate lunch party and after I clambered down the mother started feeding me chili or something and the father handed me a beer.  Well I thought that was just great until I removed my crash helmet and mother hen saw I was about fifteen years old.  She immediately grabbed the beer and replaced it with an orange soda.  Fond but strange memories of Spokane.

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    That is the best ski story I have heard yet (5.00 / 3) (#98)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:10:18 PM EST
    And i have heard a lot of them, after living in Colorado for 13 years!

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    Have you completed chapter 1 (none / 0) (#75)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:57:55 PM EST
    of your memoir yet?

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    Oculus, thank you and yes I have (5.00 / 2) (#90)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:15:51 PM EST
    but there's that pesky dark side to most of my stories.  

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    Oh oh Oculus I read your word (5.00 / 3) (#94)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:33:55 PM EST
    completed as contemplated while I was awaiting the Alabama/ Florida game.  No I haven't started the memoirs yet but if it keeps raining down here I guess I could start.  I haven't even given up the information that my grandpa was born on the Isle of Skye in Scotland where the stories really begin.  And to think that jim thinks my Scottish knowledge comes from fiction.  But what is truth and what is fiction?  Is the Bible truth or faith?  Did Shakespeare really write the works of Shakespeare?  

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    Well, I think based on what people tell me (none / 0) (#99)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:10:23 PM EST
    and grandpa stories can be more accurate than fiction.

    Is the Bible true?? My faith says that it is a history of the Jews and  Christianity.....

    Just as your faith probably leads you to believe in man made global warming...

    Neither has been proven.

    And if you ever want to hear Grandpa stories in all their joyous colors, attend some Squadron reunions and discover who really won the Cold War. ;-)


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    Jim it's not necessary nor wise (5.00 / 3) (#144)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:07:36 PM EST
    to mix stories of man made global warming with stories of my Scottish granda.  You and I have done just fine so far and ye dinna hochmagandy  wi the fiercest clan of the fierce Highlanders ye ken. :)

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    Well, I never claimed to doing the wise thing (1.00 / 1) (#177)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 12:59:09 PM EST
    But as somewhat of a
    low land Scot
    putting up with fights, claims and counter claims is in my blood.

    ;-)

    But disagreeing with someone's faith can be a dangerous thing. Just ask a radical Muslim.

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    Jim if I were to live in Scotland (none / 0) (#184)
    by fishcamp on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:11:40 PM EST
    I would much prefer the lowlands, possibly close to the Lake District of England.  The Isle of Skye, where my people are from, is a frigid, barren, windy very difficult place to live.  Many think the Highlanders hold a higher station in life than the Lowlanders which is not at all true.  In fact the crazed and fierce folk come from the barren Highlands and the more genteel and often brighter people come from the Lowlands.  Since I doubt there are many if any Muslims in the Florida Keys I hopefully will not be speaking to any.  There are probably some up in Miami but I doubt they mix well with the Columbians and Cubans.  Glad to see you and I are still fine.

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    Sufis are radical Muslims (none / 0) (#198)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 04:18:11 PM EST
    but I haven't heard disagreeing with them is bad for ones' health.

    And, however startling this may seem, these very Sufis -- these dedicated defenders and evangelists of mystical Islam -- are potentially vital allies for the nations of the West. Many observers see a stark confrontation between the West and Islam, a global conflict that entered a traumatic new phase with the Iranian revolution. But that perspective ignores basic conflicts within the Muslim world itself, a global clash of values over the nature of religious practice, no less than overtly political issues. For the Islamists -- for hard-line fundamentalists like the Saudi Wahhabis and the Taliban -- the Sufis are deadly enemies, who draw on practices alien to the Quran. Where Islamists rise to power, Sufis are persecuted or driven underground; but where Sufis remain in the ascendant, it is the radical Islamist groups who must fight to survive.




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    Sufi's are not Radical (5.00 / 1) (#200)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 04:28:45 PM EST
    Neither in the sense of extremists, which is the context here, nor in the concept of radicalism. In the later context Sufi's are conservative.

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    Sufi Muslims (none / 0) (#201)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 04:51:49 PM EST
    do things that make them look radical by the more orthodox Sunni and Shi'a Muslims.  

    Politically, no. But the equation of 'Radical Muslim = Kill all Westerners' is too simple-minded in understanding what is going on in the ME and elsewhere.  

    IMHO.

     

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    No one here believes it, as there (5.00 / 1) (#66)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:12:32 PM EST
    is no evidence supporting such a belief. But then why was Lewinsky associated w/the grand jury re Officer Wilson in the initial comment?  A waste of energy.

    Waste of Energy? (none / 0) (#81)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:03:51 PM EST
    Hardly...  It was a rhetorical point made by one of the many people who believe that the Police are able to get away with murder.

    Nothing new, it is a point much like saying to someone who denies that there was a holocaust that they may want to check on ebay for lampshades circa 1940 made of human skin.

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    It is quite common for both sides in (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:10:57 PM EST
    litigation against alleged law enforcement misconduct to hire expert witnesses re use of force. Hardly remarkable enough to justify so many vociferous comments.

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    Asking A Question (5.00 / 4) (#92)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:25:00 PM EST
    And a rhetorical one at that is hardly a narrative by any stretch of the imagination, BUT to say that Uncle Chip is creating a false narrative is in FACT a False Narrative.

    I'm not religious at all, but (5.00 / 2) (#100)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:17:47 PM EST
    ...ya gotta love the Satanists who get to put on a Black Mass at the Oklahoma City city hall.

    Xtians demanded religious recognition in the building, which to be fair included all religions, and Satan moved in alongside Jesus and Moses and a few thousand Hindu gods.

    The degree to which freedom of religion has bent the RWNJ opinion industry out of shape is a joy to behold.

    I might just start worshiping Satan myself.

    Thought this was pretty funny (5.00 / 4) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 07:13:24 PM EST
    Free satanic coloring books passed out in schools

    "If a public school board is going to allow religious pamphlets and full Bibles to be distributed to students -- as is the case in Orange County, Florida -- we think the responsible thing to do is to ensure that these students are given access to a variety of differing religious opinions, as opposed to standing idly by while one religious voice dominates the discourse and delivers propaganda to youth," the Satanic Temple's spokesperson, Lucien Greaves, explained in a statement.


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    Goodness (5.00 / 4) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:41:22 PM EST
    this thread is certainly full of PPJ.

    looks like someone forgot to flush.

    Yes, he's blog-clogging (none / 0) (#162)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:57:22 AM EST
    And he needs to stop. I've already deleted a bunch of sniping and repetitive comments.

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    Bill Maher on ISIS (5.00 / 2) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:45:45 PM EST
    It's the equinox... (5.00 / 2) (#205)
    by desertswine on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:23:46 PM EST
    If I had to give up all music (5.00 / 1) (#206)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:29:22 PM EST
    except for one artist I would keep Leonard Cohen.

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    Here's another (5.00 / 1) (#223)
    by ruffian on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:57:19 PM EST
    Closing Time

    and I missed you since the place got wrecked
    And I just don't care what happens next
    looks like freedom but it feels like death
    it's something in between, I guess
    it's CLOSING TIME

    Amazing

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    I had never paid much (none / 0) (#233)
    by sj on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:27:30 PM EST
    attention to Leonard Cohen until that album (The Future) came out. It's just so, so good.

    Before that, all I could recall of him was "Suzanne". Which didn't do much for me.

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    Great selection btw (none / 0) (#207)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:32:40 PM EST
    tough to pick

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    HA that's my man (5.00 / 1) (#209)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:04:11 PM EST
    (NEWSER) - Leonard Cohen turns 80 today, and he's marking his eighth decade by returning to a vice he gave up in his fifth: The "Hallelujah" scribe unabashedly says he's going to start smoking again, reports the San Francisco Chronicle.


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    So many wonderful and haunting songs. (none / 0) (#211)
    by desertswine on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:24:34 PM EST
    A while back (none / 0) (#213)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:42:33 PM EST
    a friend and I were laughing about an unknown Leonard appearing on The Voice.  

    Somebody get the hook!

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    He has resumed smoking: (none / 0) (#234)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:40:19 PM EST
    Funny or Die (5.00 / 1) (#218)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:22:51 PM EST
    FOR THE EYES OF PRESIDENT OBAMA ONLY

    Mr. President, Iraq and Syria are in turmoil. Dictator Bashar al-Assad is brutally bombing his own people. Opposing him is ISIS, the most vicious terrorist organization on the planet. The U.S. cannot ignore these human rights violations and threats to our security. We must act. We must arm Nate, the one Syrian rebel we can trust.

    As you asked us, the CIA has been exhaustively vetting rebel factions that the U.S. could arm against Assad and ISIS, provided they meet some key criteria. They need to be fighting Assad but not aligned with ISIS. They have to be principled enough not to commit war crimes or atrocities against civilians, but also not wusses. They can't be religious extremists, but they can't be so secular that they'll alienate the populace.

    Luckily, despite the terrible strife in that region, we have found that there is still absolutely a faction that meets our criteria. His name is Nate and we should send him 90,000 guns.

    In case you're confused: Nate is not a rebel leader. We're not talking about arming him and his followers. Just him. Just one dude. That's what we've got.



    Hilarious & wonderful moments on live TV (5.00 / 1) (#246)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Sep 22, 2014 at 09:05:08 AM EST
    license to kill (5.00 / 2) (#247)
    by Uncle Chip on Mon Sep 22, 2014 at 09:42:15 AM EST
    Why Darren Wilson will not be indicted

    The encoded practice is to take the officer's word that he or she felt that they would die if they didn't blaze away.

    If this sounds like a virtual license to kill, it is. And this almost certainly will be the way Wilson's battery of attorneys will play it if he is ever hauled into a court docket. No matter how many eyewitnesses call him a blatant liar, and swear as they have repeatedly done in interviews that Brown had his hands up and attempted to surrender, Wilson's attorneys will simply counter that he "reasonably believed" that Brown posed a threat to his life.

    Is NY Times avoiding covering ISIS beheading plot (2.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:18:44 AM EST
    or am I just deficient at Googling? This is the recent news coming out of Australia, involving terrorists with links to ISIS.

    "In what was called the largest anti-terror operation in Australian history, police have arrested 15 people allegedly linked to the Islamic State, some who plotted a public beheading."

    "Police said the planned attack was to be "random." The killers were to behead a victim and then drape the body in the black Islamic State flag, according to the Sydney Morning Herald."

    Washington Post article.

    This, along with intelligence indicating that ISIS was also planning to go after members of parliament, has received a decent amount of press. However, I was surprised not to see articles from the NY Times popping up in my internet search.

    The Times is in a quandry (1.00 / 3) (#26)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:03:29 AM EST
    they afraid to report too much about ISIS because Obama has done so little about it.

    I mean, what's a water carrier to do?

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    Expert (5.00 / 4) (#29)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:16:39 AM EST
    Water carrier ppj, is qualified to speak of water carriers of course while carrying water...

    How do we know when someone is carrying water?

    Well for one check out the claim of the water carrier.

    The Times is in a quandary they afraid to report too much about ISIS because Obama has done so little about it.

    NYT search on ISIS:

    1-10 of about 366,000 Results



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    The issue isn't the number of hits they (2.00 / 2) (#33)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:23:47 AM EST
    have on articles they have carried.

    The issue is the number of articles.

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    32 Articles in the las two days? (5.00 / 3) (#36)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:28:35 AM EST
    What is your threshold? Oh, just carrying water..

    OK carry on.

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    Please link the 32 NY Times (2.00 / 1) (#108)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:07:45 PM EST
    articles on the ISIS beheading plot in Australia. Actually, just link the 5 biggest ones from the Times.

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    Isn't that your job? (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:09:50 PM EST
    Sorry (5.00 / 4) (#114)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:20:30 PM EST
    I did not read your comment, as it was as uninteresting as usual.
    My response was to ppj, who claimed that the NYT did not write about ISIS... I found 32 articles about ISIS from the last couple of days.

    Did not know you are now going on about Australia. Keep hunting maybe you will find something to prove your thesis, whatever that is.

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    How many articles would the NYT (5.00 / 5) (#38)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:30:33 AM EST
     have to have run to satisfy you?  Because they have several topic pages on ISIS, they have a lot of articles and columns on the subject.

    Are you just passing along a rumor that they aren't covering ISIS enough, a rumor that you haven't bothered to research for yourself?

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    Why don't you and squeaky (1.33 / 3) (#42)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:48:45 AM EST
    try reading the thread and see where my comment came from rather than just trying to defend one of Obama's biggest media water carriers?????

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    The post was from Green26 ... (5.00 / 3) (#61)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:54:05 PM EST
    ... but you're the one agreeing with him and claiming the NYT is carrying Obama's water by not covering it sufficiently.

    Clueless.

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    Agreeing with Green26? (1.33 / 3) (#80)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:02:24 PM EST
    No, I just believe him when he says the NYT didn't carry an article about the Australian situation.

    But yes. I think that is an outstanding example of the media carrying Obama's water.

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    Who cares what you "believe"? (5.00 / 5) (#88)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:12:49 PM EST
    No, I just believe him when he says the NYT didn't carry an article about the Australian situation.

    But yes. I think that is an outstanding example of the media carrying Obama's water.

    It takes about 5 seconds to prove that his (and your) "belief" is false - as usual.  Not to mention the more than two dozen articles discussing ISIS in the NYT over just the past two days.

    Google - and facts - are not your friend, apparently.

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    Thanks. Glad you were able to find a 1-paragraph (2.00 / 2) (#112)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:16:19 PM EST
    article in the NY Times. That's not exactly big coverage. I wonder what page it was on in the hard copy. Like I said, I may not be a great Googler.

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    "Big coverage"? (5.00 / 2) (#128)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 05:38:50 PM EST
    That wasn't your question.

    This, along with intelligence indicating that ISIS was also planning to go after members of parliament, has received a decent amount of press. However, I was surprised not to see articles from the NY Times popping up in my internet search...

    Is NY Times avoiding covering ISIS beheading plot or am I just deficient at Googling? This is the recent news coming out of Australia, involving terrorists with links to ISIS...

    Like I said, I may not be a great Googler.

    All the more reason to avoid these types of "questions"/accusations.

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    A question isn't an accusation. (2.00 / 3) (#135)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 06:57:25 PM EST
    Sorry to inform you, but there will be alot more where this came from. So be prepared.

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    Of that I have no doubt (5.00 / 3) (#140)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 08:05:09 PM EST
    Some people have a habit of making accusations in the form of questions ... easier than using facts or evidence.  But I'll be happy to answer your "questions".

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    My general experience is that (2.00 / 1) (#159)
    by Green26 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:47:43 AM EST
    many people who think questions are accusations are overly sensitive or have an axe to grind. They have trouble defending their positions without attacking those who don't agree.

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    That's so strange (5.00 / 3) (#163)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:54:58 AM EST
    My personal experience is that when people have no evidence to support their accusations, they often choose to phrase them as "questions".  This is particularly true when the "questions" are so easily proven false.  Either way, I'll be happy to answer your "questions".

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    I feel sorry for James (5.00 / 1) (#164)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:17:54 AM EST
    Always persecuted here when people bring up the facts.

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    A one para "article" was linked. (none / 0) (#182)
    by Green26 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:22:39 PM EST
    I later found a slightly longer Times article. I asked a legitimate question, as I was surprised that I didn't immediately see any NY Times articles on the subject, but saw articles from many our sources. After looking a bit further,  it looks to me that the NY Times is downplaying the topic more than many other media sources.

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    Glad you figured it out (none / 0) (#183)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:06:28 PM EST
    Googling, that is.

    As for what you think it "looks like" the NYT is doing, people see what they want to see.  Personally, I'd be surprised if the NYT spent a lot of time covering a failed plot in Australia - particularly when the connection to ISIS is so nebulous.  Not to mention how little is known of the details of the plot (hence, not much to report).

    But, hey - since you're a big fan of "questions" - Australia hyping homeland fight against ISIS?

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    This was one of the articles (none / 0) (#190)
    by Green26 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:02:41 PM EST
    I read in the past few days when I didn't see any NY Times coverage. Looks like you agree with me that the NY Times is downplaying the topic, plus given an explanation of why they may not be giving the topic much coverage.

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    If that's what it "looks like" ... (5.00 / 1) (#197)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:49:17 PM EST
    Looks like you agree with me that the NY Times is downplaying the topic, plus given an explanation of why they may not be giving the topic much coverage.

    ... to you, in addition to Googling, you may want to work on reading comprehension, too.

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    Yman, I thought these words of yours (none / 0) (#216)
    by Green26 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:52:44 PM EST
    indicated that you thought the NY Times was not giving this particular topic much play. If you didn't think that, why did you bother explaining the reasons the Times might not have been covering the topic much?

    "Personally, I'd be surprised if the NYT spent a lot of time covering a failed plot in Australia - particularly when the connection to ISIS is so nebulous.  Not to mention how little is known of the details of the plot (hence, not much to report)."


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    You thought wrong (none / 0) (#217)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:22:45 PM EST
    It's not very difficult.  The NYT has not spent much time/space covering the alleged, failed plot in Australia - rightfully so, IMO.  That does not mean that they are "downplaying the topic" or "avoiding covering ISIS beheading plot."

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    In case you don't know it (none / 0) (#105)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:50:00 PM EST
    today us 9/20, not 9/17.

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    Congrats (5.00 / 4) (#117)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:26:37 PM EST
    ... on being able to use a calendar.

    Now you should try google.

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    Feel free to link (none / 0) (#109)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:08:45 PM EST
    all of the NY Times article on the recent ISIS beheading plot in Australia.

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    You haven't the slightest clue ... (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:52:20 PM EST
    ... as to the number of articles they've published about ISIS, yet you claim it's not enough, because they're "carrying water" for Obama.

    Google is pretty easy to use, Jim.  It would help you avoid these embarrassing claims.

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    Well, we're having a lot of (1.50 / 2) (#82)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:03:56 PM EST
    False Narratives today and when you start talking about what I didn't claim you are positing one.

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    You can run, but you can't hide (5.00 / 2) (#91)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:16:55 PM EST
    ... from your own comments.  In response to Green's comment that he didn't think the NYT covered the ISIS Australia plot, you said:

    The Times is in a quandry they afraid to report too much about ISIS because Obama has done so little about it.

    I mean, what's a water carrier to do?

    and


     The issue isn't the number of hits they have on articles they have carried.

    The issue is the number of articles.

    You were suggesting that the NYT wasn't covering the ISIS Australia plot and/or ISIS in general because they are "carrying water" for Obama.

    But I understand why you'd want to try to back away from those false claims, now.


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    I think....might be wrong too (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:45:14 AM EST
    That anything that can be used by ISIL for propaganda purposes has become quieter.  I read about these arrests, but CNN isn't going to treat it like they did the plane because of the hyper emotionality that involves.  All that media specuhoping will only make it into the next ISIL video as evidence of the "power" they have over the daily lives of the world.  

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    So if we report the hateful crimes (none / 0) (#25)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:59:54 AM EST
    we are helping the criminals.... so we don't and the world doesn't know about it and the criminals are not attacked so they keep on doing the killings...which we can't report because it would help the criminals so they are not attacked because the world doesn't know  so they keep on killing which we can't report.....

    Moebius Strip

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    Let's face it (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:52:28 AM EST
    Walter Cronkite could deliver the news, Edward R. Murrow could too.  Modern day news is more like hysteria breeding than reporting the simple facts.  My husband and I were discussing specuhoping and he brought up the media following the ambulance of the second Ebola patient arriving in Atlanta from the airport to the hospital.  They were hoping that the ambulance ran out of gas, or had engine trouble, or was part of a car crash and the back door flew open and the Ebola patient escaped into a dark alley in the heart of Atlanta and couldn't be immediately found :)

    The speculation of what ISIL could do next would go on for months, and ISIL would just use that Jim as evidence of how powerful they are.  Who needs that?  And why do you need hysteria vs. facts.  The facts are enough.

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    You wanna face it?? (none / 0) (#56)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:49:21 PM EST
    Cronkite lied about Tet. We didn't lose.

    We realized that America had made its maximum military commitment to the war. Vietnam was not sufficiently important for the United States to call up its reserves. We had stretched American power to a breaking point. When more frustration set in, all the Americans could do would be to withdraw; they had no more troops to send over.
    Tet was designed to influence American public opinion. We would attack poorly defended parts of South Vietnam cities during a holiday and a truce when few South Vietnamese troops would be on duty. Before the main attack, we would entice American units to advance close to the borders, away from the cities. By attacking all South Vietnam's major cities, we would spread out our forces and neutralize the impact of American firepower. Attacking on a broad front, we would lose some battles but win others. We used local forces nearby each target to frustrate discovery of our plans. Small teams, like the one which attacked the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, would be sufficient. It was a guerrilla strategy of hit-and-run raids. [lloks like a re-writing of history with the benefit of hindsight]

    Q: What about the results?

    A: Our losses were staggering and a complete surprise;. Giap later told me that Tet had been a military defeat, though we had gained the planned political advantages when Johnson agreed to negotiate and did not run for re-election. The second and third waves in May and September were, in retrospect, mistakes. Our forces in the South were nearly wiped out by all the fighting in 1968. It took us until 1971 to re-establish our presence, but we had to use North Vietnamese troops as local guerrillas. If the American forces had not begun to withdraw under Nixon in 1969, they could have punished us severely. We suffered badly in 1969 and 1970 as it was...

    Bui Tin

    And no, I don't wanna get off subject so if you disagree about Walter please go to Open thread.

    But this whole thing smacks of Vietnam. Look how it started. We removed forces from Iraq which allowed ISIS to form. We are now engaged in half way responses when we could be bombing them into oblivion while saying that an group calls itself the "Islamic State..." isn't Islamic. Remember "Agrarian reformers???"

    The military is designed to kill people and break things. We should use them to do only that and keep the peace after we have won. Other wise, bring them home.

    I agree that "If it bleeds it leads." Always has. And yes it is worse now because they have more space to fill. And yes ISIS is news because of how they came about, what they have done, and what they are threatening to do.

    Not reporting it and pretending it isn't happening only plays into ISIS's hands.


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    You must have served (5.00 / 6) (#79)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:00:16 PM EST
    ...during a different Vietnam War than the one that was going on when I served.

    Everyone I served with thought it was a clusterfvck.

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    I have never commented on my service (2.00 / 1) (#84)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:07:56 PM EST
    beyond noting that I served 10 years in Naval Aviation.

    And I honor your service.

    Was Tet a CF?? The enemy said they were badly beaten. Uncle Walter said we lost.

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    Dwarfed (5.00 / 4) (#204)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:16:23 PM EST
    by the decades spent In Navel Contemplation

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    The troops (none / 0) (#220)
    by ragebot on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:39:41 PM EST
    in any war I know of thought it was a flustercluck.

    While Vietnam was no exception I would point out that a lot of troops thought if the US was serious about winning as opposed to treating the action as the Southeast Asian War Games they would have bombed the dikes in North Vietnam, mined Haiphong harbor, and allowed hot chase of hostiles into bordering countries for starters.

    As for Tet Jim's post understates just how bad it was for the North.  KIA and MIA for the Charlie was over ten to one worse than the South and US.

    Signed, Winner of the second place medal in the Southeast Asia War Games.

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    Should have posted (none / 0) (#221)
    by ragebot on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:49:39 PM EST
    Early, effective, and continued mining of Haiphong Harbor.

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    No need to worry (none / 0) (#57)
    by Yman on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:49:45 PM EST
    No one is avoiding the topic (none / 0) (#160)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:50:39 AM EST
    I wrote about it in the last open thread. It's probably overblown. There are articles all over about it, I don't know about the NY times but I've read at least a dozen articles and lost interest. Feel free to discuss it though if you want.

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    The mini mart video (2.00 / 1) (#46)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:05:44 PM EST
    clearly shows Brown aggressively attacking and then returning to attack:

    Minimart attack

    And then we have this description of the shooting:

    Video

    Brown's actions are remarkably the same. He attacks and then returns.

    But unlike you I am willing to wait and abide by what the legal system says after Wilson has been afforded the due process we all supposedly enjoy.

    So there you go. Rumors?? No. Just opinion based on video and audio evidence.


    Again, you're passing on a rumor (none / 0) (#50)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:23:09 PM EST
    based on your viewing of the tape and the unverified reports of witnesses who remain unnamed but all seem to justify Darrens' shootings of Brown.

    As for your NYT comment, you base it on a question by another commenter here without supporting facts, other than the NYT carries Obamas' water, like when they run columns by  Maureen Dowd who routinely bashes him when she does write about him......

    Wait a minute.............

    Thanks for demonstrating why "social liberal" is an oxymoron.

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    And my expressed opinion was (none / 0) (#52)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 12:30:39 PM EST
    based on video and audio evidence.

    The basis of Uncle's rumor is not given by him.

    The basis of my NYT comment was based on the fact that the NYT didn't carry an article about the Australia situation.

    And us Social Liberals do like ourselves some facts.

    ;-)

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    Since you have no visual (none / 0) (#63)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:03:34 PM EST
    Or audio evidence to draw any conclusions from, your conclusions are fact-free as usual.

    No charge for the education, even for a so-called "social liberal".

    LOL!

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    I gave you two links (2.00 / 1) (#87)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 02:11:47 PM EST
    with visual and audible information that supports my points.

    You can deny that if you want but anyone can go to them.

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    enough of the insults (none / 0) (#161)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:53:41 AM EST
    Jim and Mordigan, you will both be put in time out if you don't stop sniping at each other. You are both degrading the thread.

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    Queen Rips Scottish Bas&$@ds (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 08:56:07 AM EST
    in Angry Televised Address

    LONDON (The Borowitz Report)--In an eleventh-hour development that could have an unpredictable effect on the vote to determine Scottish independence, Queen Elizabeth II took to the British airwaves on Thursday to excoriate the Scots in a one-hour, profanity-laden tirade.


    Yep, many are happy about the (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by fishcamp on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:12:09 AM EST
    loss of the vote to separate in Scotland.  Angela Merkel said it doesn't matter to her country but said it with a smile.  Spain is happy because both the Catalonians and the Basques were hoping to leave Spain.  France is happy since Corsica wanted to split as well.  I'm not happy down here in the Conch Republic.  Let's hope the English live up to their recent talk of reform for Scotland.  But then Wales and Northern Ireland will want more too.  It's not always good to be the Queen.

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    Everyone seems happy (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:48:33 AM EST
    except some Scotts.

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    Could be worse, y'know. Elizabeth's (none / 0) (#202)
    by Mr Natural on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 04:54:52 PM EST
    namesake indulged, if I recall correctly, in a bit of beheading.

    (that was the Borowitz report, btw)

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    So THATS what (none / 0) (#203)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 05:06:04 PM EST
    the 2nd 3rd and 4th words mean!

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    The Knick was great last night (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:11:30 AM EST
    YES! It was so good I stayed up too late watching (none / 0) (#7)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:50:56 AM EST
    I thought it was floundering a little till now, but it really hit its stride in this episode.  I'm glad Thackeray finally will be partners with Edwards.

    And Cornelia was great! Loved the previously.tv take.

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    I got home way too late (none / 0) (#10)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:59:14 AM EST
    Lightening hit somewhere around the house too so the surge protector on the fuse box shut everything down.  I didn't even get a recording.

    But Enterprise HS in a big upset beat Auburn Tigers HS.

    Josh was in the pit at half time rockin out.  He couldn't hold still.  I am not allowed to call him cute anymore so at a loss what to call it?

    The weather was much cooler last night, maybe melting is over for the year.

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    On tonight at 8 (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:16:23 AM EST
    i hope so too.  Totally ready for fall here.

    Go Enterprise.

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    Only going to be in the 80s today (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:32:02 AM EST
    Already a rainy morning cut our dog park trip short.

    It is amazing what a difference the upper 80s feel from the mid-90s.  Much more tolerable!

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    It makes parks something I can (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:40:09 AM EST
    Consider.  We lapped the park here yesterday morning after dropping Josh off at school.

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    I think you're supposed to call him... (5.00 / 2) (#154)
    by unitron on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:38:37 PM EST
    ...a smokin' hot lady magnet.

    : - )

    (in the hope that becomes a spreading rumor that the girls in his school take as gospel)

    And Uninterruptible Power Supplies with big batteries are your DVR's friend.

    Also your computer's.

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    Thackeray (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:17:14 AM EST
    is utterly mad.

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    He sure is. Poor Bertie is going to (none / 0) (#17)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:19:34 AM EST
    have to stage an intervention at some point.

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    Been watching Godzilla (none / 0) (#120)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:34:36 PM EST
    on PPV.  So good.

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    Just watched "Her" (5.00 / 1) (#139)
    by ruffian on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 08:02:06 PM EST
    Interesting...a little creepy. I found it very off-putting to watch just one part of the interaction. But that was an interesting twist, that she, being a super processor, was not just 'servicing' him.  Even fake people are hard to deal with...there is no hope!

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    Is it good? (none / 0) (#146)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:58:16 PM EST
    I was a little worried.  What has our gifted Mr. Cranston done :)

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    Big big fan (none / 0) (#148)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:05:34 PM EST
    i saw in in the theater and couldn't wait for PPV so I could slo mo through the amazing effects.   But IMO it's more than that.  It's a good story Cranston is excellent. And the director manages some iconic monster moments.  
    If you never saw "Monsters" an earlier movie directed by Gareth Edwards you should.  It's out of the box great.  Creepy in the best possible way not gory very well done.  The way he handled the gigantic "monsters" is no doubt why he got this much bigger budget gig.

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    Ps (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:11:50 PM EST
    I've never been a Godzilla fan.  I will watch just about any horror/sci-if/fantasy you can think of but I can't take Godzilla.  Unless I'm in a rare mood to laugh.  I only like the 1999 one because my friend Karen was the digital effects sup.  it was not a great movie.

    THIS is not your fathers Godzilla.  It really is the reboot of all reboots IMO.

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    I loved Godzilla in grade school (none / 0) (#151)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:18:52 PM EST
    Odd for a girl?  Do you remember Dialing for Dollars?  Didn't they do a lot of Godzilla?

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    I Need to See it (none / 0) (#157)
    by squeaky on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:06:19 PM EST
    A friend of mine shot the film..

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    Give them my compliments (none / 0) (#165)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:29:09 AM EST
    its really beautifully shot.  I absolutely love the sky diving sequence to the 2001 music.  (Ok, I know it not 2001 music but I can't remember who it is. Stravinski ?)

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    Howdy, Guid mornin' ta ye lad (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by fishcamp on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:43:57 AM EST
    Just read on Google news eight ways to make IOS8 work better.  Gotta get outta' this place since my Cuban cleaning lady just arrived and she just loves to run espiritadores (vacuum cleaners) for hours.

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    Done (none / 0) (#168)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:53:43 AM EST
    OK, Will Do (none / 0) (#169)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:43:10 AM EST
    I do not see him often, but will pass on the Kudos..

    He also shot the Avengers, which I saw and loved..

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    Not Stravinski (none / 0) (#173)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 11:52:21 AM EST
    The piece of his used in 2001 (none / 0) (#174)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 12:22:13 PM EST
    is Lux aeterna.

    And it's Stravinsky, you might as well call the composer of the 1812 Overture Tchaikovski.

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    Sigh (none / 0) (#185)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:25:24 PM EST
    For those few curious individuals who didn't already know (or yet to google it) the music is György Ligeti's "Requiem". You may remember it from its most famous usage in Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey as the leitmotif for the enigmatic and alien monoliths at the core of the film's mysterious story. Given this association, it seems only fitting that the makers of the Godzilla teaser would trade on the Kubrick allusion to underscore the introduction of modern audiences to a new evolution of the Godzilla franchise. Though it may seem that the teaser borrows merely on the allusion to Kubrick, perhaps it also draws meaning from Ligeti's own work.


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    4 pieces by Ligeti (none / 0) (#199)
    by Mordiggian 88 on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 04:27:18 PM EST
    were used in 2001, I mentioned one of them, you mentioned the other.  Shall we split the difference?

    Here's a palate-cleaner: The Also Sprach Zarathustra Dawn theme as reinterpreted by the Brazilian composer/performer Deodato, also reminding us how music was in the 70s, even with a guy who was probably not doing too many drugs.

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    Google is your friend (none / 0) (#188)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:41:07 PM EST
    Other music used is Ligeti's Lux Aeterna and an electronically altered form of his Aventures, the last of which was so used without Ligeti's permission and is not listed in the film's credits.[4]


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    Ligetti (none / 0) (#176)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 12:49:55 PM EST
    If you like Ligetti's music, you may want to check out Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima (Penderecki) (if you don't already know it).. Very powerful..

    and then as an antidote Ligetti's Six Bagatelles

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    I had heard the first (none / 0) (#187)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:36:20 PM EST
    not the second.  The first is much more my style.  I'm sure that says something about me but I could not say what.

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    Yes, I Agree (none / 0) (#191)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:18:50 PM EST
    Was suggesting the Bagatelles just in case you did not know Threnody...  and listened to the whole piece.

    The Bagatelles would be like a bit of sherbet after a course, to cleanse the palate with a little lightness to counter the dark.

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    High recommendation for (none / 0) (#193)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:23:30 PM EST
    Jeremy Denk's performance of the Ligetti "Etudes."

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    Just reading the rest of that post (none / 0) (#192)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:19:41 PM EST
    i took the first quote from.   it's interesting if a bit full of itself.  Interesting that the post, and many assumptions, are based on the music only being used in the trailer not knowing that the music was to be used in one of the most powerful sequences in the film.
    So instead of the usual contrefacta we find in trailer music, where melodies spread like aural herpes through the sonic space, Edwards and his team effectively grabbed the perfect song to impart and sustain the perfect mood and theme for the work in question. It may be that my leniency for the use of Ligeti in this trailer stems from my profound respect for Edwards as a tireless one-man-army overseeing all aspects of his first film, 2010's Monsters (The making of which, I must point out, is more interesting than the film itself; and though it is often the case for most films, the documentaries included on the DVD and blu-ray are rare among their ilk that they effectively manage to capture this intrigue.) Even if I believed Edwards to be a hack, however, I would still be forced by my principles to give credit where it's due. I would not invoke the same level of praise as Ebert did in the epigraph of this post, nor would I suggest Edwards is a genius for managing to craft a passable and subdued homage to Kubrick and perhaps even Ligeti under the guise of a summer tentpole movie teaser (if not the least because I have no idea the extent of Edwards' involvement in the trailer), but I do wish to stress that whoever was responsible for the trailer deserves more than just the obligatory laudations for the feat. But allow me to at least get that obligation out of the way: bravo you brilliant bastard. All the rest, meanwhile, should ponder and reflect before they dare to drop in a rehashed background track.

    Plus he shares my affection for "Monsters" so I'm making allowances.

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    Also interesting (none / 0) (#194)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:26:38 PM EST
    that incredibly I had never seen that trailer till today and did not realize the almost the whole seq I was raving about is in the trailer.  

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    Actually (none / 0) (#195)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:37:47 PM EST
    maybe not that incredible since as I mentioned, not a Godzilla fan.  More so when I learned they were making the same old fat waddling guy from the 50s.  Only became interested when as more information came out.

    Anyway.  He's right.  It's a magnificent trailer.  

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    Yes (none / 0) (#196)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 03:47:37 PM EST
    Among other rarefied aesthetic questions the trailer leaves me to ponder, it really makes me want to see the film!

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    Sold (none / 0) (#150)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:16:21 PM EST
    Josh and I will cook something special for his carnivore taste buds and watch it tomorrow.  With band practice and his class schedule we are fully in motion all weekdays except Wednesday...which he must now attend PT on after school.  We collapse on the weekends.  There is vid of him up on the band website where they catch him rocking out, but it is closed from sharing :( He's a jammin rocking out little cutie.

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    There is a Breaking Bad (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:40:04 PM EST
    "Easter egg" he might enjoy.  
    In the opening credits, which are shown like information that's briefly shown and quickly redacted, the group of words around Brian Cranstons name briefly-very briefly, you will need pause and slo mo advance to really see it-says 'Walter White'

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    Thank you Capt (none / 0) (#156)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 11:00:44 PM EST
    I will look for it

    Brian Cranston is a soothing balm for the loss of Phillip Seymour Hoffman.  Ruffian and I broke out the dollars and saw Cranston in All The Way in New York.  It was engaging and stunning.  Cranston became a different person and shed that person at the rise and fall of a curtain.

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    There is something important (4.50 / 2) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:45:52 AM EST
    i wish I could tell you.  But I just can't.

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    I always do that (none / 0) (#228)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:12:10 PM EST
    You two are the best Tony award (none / 0) (#180)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:07:23 PM EST
    Predictors!

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    Finally getting to Knick now (none / 0) (#147)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:00:06 PM EST
    France has joined the fight against ISIS. (none / 0) (#11)
    by Green26 on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:03:53 AM EST
    Airstrikes in Iraq near Mosul by French planes yesterday. France is saying they will assist only in Iraq. Planes flew from UAE.

    Washington Post.

    Everybody is joining up for this (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:06:31 AM EST
    In my effort to figure out what's going (none / 0) (#67)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:15:48 PM EST
    on in Kansas, I encountered an NYT article re Kansas, Alaska, and Iowa Senate races, including this excerpt re Alaska:

    Yet the race in Alaska is nearly as unclear as Kansas'. Alaska is the only state this year where there has not been a traditional, nonpartisan telephone survey contacting voters with a cellphone. The data we have is generally of dubious quality or comes from partisan outfits.


    A tidbit (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by christinep on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:46:40 PM EST
    For reasons that still surprise my husband & me, my husband's only nephew got very (very) involved in the political scene these past several years (starting with the home area in Pennsylvania ... the data political scene.  We were pleasantly surprised a little while back to learn of two Dem party directed assignments that the family's burgeoning IT specialist was given.  First, he was sent to Arkansas; then, to Alaska; and--we understand--he is being sent to Louisiana for the expected December phase there.

    I'm almost salivating-curious about Alaska, of course.  So, every so often, I nudge the husband with a "How is your brother doing (and the boy-child, nephew?)"  The fact that the data-types (trans: voter-targeting phalanx) have been dispersed for months to the tipping-point states is nice to know, tho.  

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    I was reading that AK (none / 0) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 04:11:49 PM EST
    is a very difficult place to poll.  Far flung and less wired population.  Particularly land lines.  The mothers milk of telephone polls.  And telephone poles I guess.

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    PPJ (none / 0) (#68)
    by Uncle Chip on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:19:49 PM EST
    So then let me see if I have this straight, Jim:

    You are all upset because of the implication that this guy Lewinski would be called upon to participate in this Wilson Grand Jury presentment.

    So then if it turns out that he has participated in it or does so in the near future, then that to you would speak poorly of the Darren Wilson defense.

    Did I get that right???

    A Lewinski is something to you that an innocent policeman  would not want or need.

    Did I read you right on that???

    There are many Lewinski-like experts (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by oculus on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:26:26 PM EST
    making big bucks in civil cases involving officer-involved shootings, allegations of excessive force, false arrest, USC 42 section 1983, etc. it's a growth industry.  If the Michael Brown's parents have retained a litigation attorney, he or she has probably already contacted some of these professional expert witnesses.

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    Yeh -- (none / 0) (#71)
    by Uncle Chip on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:31:49 PM EST
    but nothing works like a Lewinski

    His ability to mesmerize a jury and fill a police report with prefabrications is second to none.

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    Upset?? Nope (2.00 / 1) (#74)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 01:55:02 PM EST
    And that's another False Narrative.

    I'm merely pointing out what you are trying to do.

    And I would be shocked, yes shocked if the prosecutor called Lewinsk1 to testify to the Grand Jury.

    And if the defense used him??

    So what?? Are you for limiting the abilities of a person to defend himself?? Do you also have other un Constitutional positions you want to share with us??

    And....  

    A Lewinski is something to you that an innocent policeman  would not want or need.

    I guess you don't think the police need a search warrant and you don't mind the NSA intercepting your calls and emails.

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    PPJ (none / 0) (#101)
    by Uncle Chip on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 03:26:00 PM EST
    Expert In Andy Lopez Shooting Also Sided With Police In Oscar Grant Case

    Does Lewinski have your approval to be involved in the Wilson case???

    Outlander (none / 0) (#143)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:00:22 PM EST
    the wedding was great.  I felt a great "THANK YOU" rise from the land when she finally said those 4 magic words

    "Take off your shirt"

    PreviouslyTV (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 09:22:31 PM EST
    What rumor... (none / 0) (#153)
    by unitron on Sat Sep 20, 2014 at 10:29:27 PM EST
    ...is squeaky spreading?

    That the guy charges $475 per hour, that $475 per hour is expensive, or that the guy is a scammer?

    Surprise Medical Bills After Surgery (none / 0) (#170)
    by squeaky on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 10:15:10 AM EST
    He was blindsided, though, by a bill of about $117,000 from an "assistant surgeon," a Queens-based neurosurgeon whom Mr. Drier did not recall meeting.

    "I thought I understood the risks," Mr. Drier, who lives in New York City, said later. "But this was just so wrong -- I had no choice and no negotiating power."

    In operating rooms and on hospital wards across the country, physicians and other health providers typically help one another in patient care. But in an increasingly common practice that some medical experts call drive-by doctoring, assistants, consultants and other hospital employees are charging patients or their insurers hefty fees....

    ...The average base salary for neurosurgeons decreased to $590,000 in 2014 from $630,000 in 2010, according to Merritt Hawkins, a physician staffing firm.

    To counter that trend, some spinal surgeons have turned to consultants -- including a Long Island company called Business Dynamics RCM and a subsidiary, the Business of Spine -- that offer advice on how to increase revenue through "innovative" coding, claim generation and collection services.

    Some strategies used by surgeons, including billing large amounts for a second surgeon in the room or declaring an operation an emergency, raise serious questions.

    NYT

    Kremlin Protest (none / 0) (#171)
    by Uncle Chip on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 11:42:48 AM EST
    Indeed (none / 0) (#172)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 11:48:50 AM EST
    Thomas Jefferson said (5.00 / 2) (#175)
    by fishcamp on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 12:43:38 PM EST
    "A government derives it's powers from the just consent of the governed".  However he allegedly stole that from a Scotsman named Locke.  This came from the Outlander series "A Breath of Snow and Ashes"  which, of course, is fiction.

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    How is the Climate March... (none / 0) (#178)
    by desertswine on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:00:01 PM EST
    going in NYC.  I was watching Amy Goodman and it looks like a lot of people. But not a crazy lot.

    A good friend made the effort to go from (none / 0) (#179)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:06:21 PM EST
    San Diego.

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    We had small demonstrations yesterday (none / 0) (#181)
    by desertswine on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 01:17:49 PM EST
    in Albuquerque and Santa Fe..  but of course nothing like NYC or the big places. The local news covered it by showing 2 still photos of it on tv.

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    So ironic, and, so sad (none / 0) (#186)
    by NYShooter on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:29:34 PM EST
    Everything that I've read about those Red States that have adopted the expanded Medicaid program is, politically, discouraging. While the recently uninsured, now insured, voters are thrilled to have coverage for themselves, and, their families, every indication I've seen points to no benefit for the Democrats.

    Kentucky is a good case in point; it ranks among the lowest three States in virtually every category of health deficiency. However, since adopting the expanded Medicaid coverage in January of this year the turnaround in health statistics has been dramatic. While the health of Kentuckians has improved greatly it has not led to any improvement in the political outlook for those who brought those benefits to the voters of Kentucky.

    A Typical Example:

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The Affordable Care Act allowed (call her "Jean Johnson,") an eBay warehouse packer earning $9 an hour, to sign up for Medicaid this year. She is being treated for high blood pressure and Graves' disease, an autoimmune disorder, after years of going uninsured and rarely seeing doctors.

    "I'm tickled to death with it," Ms. Johnson, 51, said of her new coverage as she walked around the Kentucky State Fair recently with her daughter, who also qualified for Medicaid under the law. "It's helped me out a bunch."

    But Ms. Johnson scowled at the mention of President Obama, and, said she would vote this fall for Senator Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican and minority leader, who is fond of saying the health care law should be "pulled out root and branch."

    Ms. Johnson said she did not want the law repealed, but, stated, "Born and raised Republican, I ain't planning on changing now."

    For complete story:
    LINK NY TIMES


    I still think it will save (none / 0) (#189)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 02:49:35 PM EST
    Mark Pryor.  We will see.  I would not count Ms Grimes out either.

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    Talk to me in 17 years (none / 0) (#210)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 06:12:25 PM EST
    (NEWSER) - Ezekiel Emanuel is a healthy 57-year-old in all respects, as his recent hike up Mount Kilimanjaro would suggest. Which is why it might be disconcerting to read his essay in the Atlantic laying out the reasons why he hopes to be dead in 18 years. To Emanuel, 75 is the right age at which to die. "I will have lived a complete life," he writes. He will have seen his grandkids begin their own lives and will have "made whatever contributions, important or not, I am going to make." And, with luck, the inevitable mental and physical declines of old age will not have set in yet. Emanuel rejects what he calls the "American immortal"--the concept that drives people to obsessively exercise, pop vitamins, do mental puzzles, etc., in the hope of cheating death.


    Would this be (5.00 / 1) (#222)
    by Zorba on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:57:02 PM EST
    The Ezekiel Emanuel who is Rahm Emanuel's older brother?

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    Indeed it would (none / 0) (#224)
    by ruffian on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 07:57:48 PM EST
    Dear Dr. Emanuel (5.00 / 1) (#231)
    by ruffian on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:22:48 PM EST
    On behalf of the Death Panel I would like to thank you for your generous forfeiture of benefits after age 75. We look forward to expediting your case.


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    I hope someone sticks this "essay" (5.00 / 2) (#232)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:25:12 PM EST
    up his butt on his 76th birthday.

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    Yep. Maybe Kilimanjaro was the last thing on (none / 0) (#225)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:08:09 PM EST
    his bucket list.

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    When I was 20 (5.00 / 2) (#227)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:11:07 PM EST
    i didn't want to live to be 30.   We grow up.

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    Many people suffer pulmonary edema (none / 0) (#235)
    by fishcamp on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:45:58 PM EST
    while climbing the 19,340' Mt. Killmanjaro and must be immediately evacuated to lower altitude.  They make a portable Gamow bag that you get into and inflate, which helps, but you must still get off the mountain fast.  It happened to Martina Navratilova in 2010.  She was lucky to make it alive since the weather was very bad.  She has a home in Aspen and is a very good skier.  The top of Aspen Mt. is 12,000' so you think you would be ok but I have "grayed out" at 19k on a few mountains.

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    A good friend decided he did not need to do (none / 0) (#236)
    by oculus on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:54:04 PM EST
    the last saddle to summit at sunrise. His photos include a teenage boy lying on what looks like a door with a bicycle wheel under it. He is being evacuated due to extreme altitude sickness  

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    And the wingers have already ... (none / 0) (#226)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:11:05 PM EST
    ... twisted his words into a lie.

    Ezekiel Emanuel: We Should Die at 75

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    Let's be honest (none / 0) (#229)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:12:19 PM EST
    thats not far from what he said.

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    I think it's night and day (5.00 / 1) (#237)
    by Yman on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:14:27 PM EST
    Talking about what he wants for himself versus what he thinks everyone else should want/get.  Not to mention their weak attempt to use it to resurrect their "death panels" lie.

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    The subtitle (none / 0) (#230)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 08:15:29 PM EST
    He won't be so cavalier when he hits 75 (none / 0) (#238)
    by fishcamp on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:44:11 PM EST
    Not to mention that's it's (5.00 / 1) (#240)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:50:30 PM EST
    incredibly stupid to give the right a club to beat us with just when death panels were going away.

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    That's exactly right (none / 0) (#239)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:47:55 PM EST
    inhave no interest in hearing some 57 yo bozo say he wants to die at 75.  I want to hear him say it when he's 74.

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    Masters of Sex (none / 0) (#241)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 09:53:14 PM EST
    WILL LIBBY GO BACK????

    No spoilers! I haven't watched yet. (none / 0) (#242)
    by Anne on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 10:13:06 PM EST
    But pretty sure I know why you're asking that question...

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    Sorry Anne (none / 0) (#243)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 10:21:11 PM EST
    i was excited for her "possibilities"

    Also (none / 0) (#244)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 10:22:50 PM EST
    The Strain is really pushing it.  My love has limits.  This is ridiculous.  Slado help me out here.

    Ok (none / 0) (#245)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Sep 21, 2014 at 11:09:35 PM EST
    the ending sort of appeased me.  But I am starting to hope Ephram dies.  And the Master definitely should have kept his hoodie on.

    Also PreviouslyTV is great. A battle of the two most annoying post Apocolyptic kids.  Zack or Carl from walking dead.

    Brady Video (none / 0) (#248)
    by Uncle Chip on Tue Sep 23, 2014 at 12:28:12 PM EST
    Brady CNN interview with his video

    His video taken shortly after the shooting and shows Wilson with another officer speaking through the window of another SUV.

    The first two SUVs to arrive on the scene drove through the crime scene -- thus indicating how fresh the scene was at that time.

    The first SUV parks on the south side of street about 50 feet from where the final action was and most thought that this was Wilson's SUV.

    The officer who the landscapers saw arrive at the time of the shooting with gun drawn was probably from this SUV.

    This officer would have been the first to arrive, and pull up right behind Wilson as he was delivering his final 10 rounds into Brown.  

    In the Brady video that officer and Wilson are talking through the window with the officer of the 2nd SUV to arrive. This 2nd SUV then pulls up and parks about 20 feet to the other side of the body at his feet. Is this what FPD refers to as the 2nd unit to arrive -- at 12:02:22???

    As Brady films he refers then to the 3rd unit to arrive pulling into the driveway back by Wilson's SUV.