Who is the moderator, I'm alsmost afraid to look...

Hmm, a new face, Elaine Quijano. that will be worth watching for its own sake

The "Big Dog" was talking about the need to improve Obamacare to fix this issue.  He DID, in fact, "endorse Obamacare" and has supported it from the day it was passed.

"Look, the Affordable Health Care Act did a world of good, and the 50-something efforts to repeal it that the Republicans have staged were a terrible mistake," Clinton said at a rally in Athens, Ohio. "We, for the first time in our history, at least are providing insurance to more than 90% of our people."
"But there is a group of people -- mostly small business owners and employees -- who make just a little too much money to qualify for Medicaid expansion or for the tax incentives who can't get affordable health insurance premiums in a lot of places. And the reason is they're not in big pools," Clinton said. "So they have no bargaining power."

"Now the next thing is, we got to figure out what to do now on health care. Her opponent said, 'Oh, just repeal it all. The market will take care of it.' That didn't work out very well for us, did it? We wound up with the most expensive system in the world and we insured the smallest percentage of people. On the other hand, the current system works fine if you're eligible for Medicaid, if you're a lower income working person, if you're already on Medicare, or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your health care.

"But the people that are getting killed in this deal are small businesspeople and individuals who make just a little too much to get any of these subsidies. Why? Because they're not organized, they don't have any bargaining power with insurance companies, and they're getting whacked. So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden, 25 million more people have health care and then the people that are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half.

"It's the craziest thing in the world. So here's the simplest thing - you raise your hands and you think about it - here's the simplest thing: Figure out an affordable rate and let people use that - something that won't undermine your quality of life, won't interfere with your ability to make expenses, won't interfere with your ability to save money for your kid's college education. And let people buy in to Medicare or Medicaid.

"Here's why. You can let people buy in for just a little bit because unlike where you are now, if you were on the other side of this, if you were an insurer, you'd say, 'Gosh, I only got 2,000 people in this little pool. Eighty percent of the insurance costs every year come from 20 percent of the people. If I get unlucky in the pool, I'll lose money.' So they overcharge you just to make sure, and on good years, they just make a whopping profit from the people who are least able to pay it.

"It doesn't make any sense. The insurance model doesn't work here. It's not like life insurance, it's not like casualties, it's not like predicting flooding. It doesn't work. So Hillary believes we should simply let people who are above the line for getting these subsidies have access to affordable entry into the Medicare and Medicaid programs. They'll all be covered. It will not hurt the program. We will not lose a lot of money. And we ought to do it. That's what's in this for you."

Makes a big difference when you see Mr. Clinton's remarks in proper context, doesn't it? He never mentioned the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare. In fact, he's addressing issues that actually pre-dated the 2010 ACA law, including our concerns about high costs and the lack of guaranteed coverage.

Not that you're ever interested in primary-sourced material, Trevor, but those persons who are can watch the entire speech here. The remarks that I quoted above begin at the 25:40 mark.

BTW - The quote from Obama's 2008 campaign, while completely irrelevant to your silly tinfoil theory about BC, was pretty amusing.  Wonder how "Madame Secretary" is doing with AA voters?

Winning 91 to 1!!!

Oops!

Maybe you should show them that 2008 article.!

FWIW, Bill's been peddling that "change-maker" branding for years.  I don't buy it.  A vote for Clinton is a vote for more of the same.  Party supporters who count keep the rights to cost-plus government contracts.  Party supporters who don't count keep the right to "terminate" their unborn and to continue being plundered by Banksters and the Health/Insurance Industrial Complex Protection Racket.

And I see nothing in Trump's or Pence's position that would indicate that they would not follow the law.

It is scary to me how, over the years, the separation of church and state, a crucial founding policy of this nation, has been eroded. Too bad our children rarely seem to learn the history of this country and the role that desire for freedom from religious oppression played.

Perhaps that isn't a record.

But it sure is a good average. ;-)

That kinda made the "debate" useless.

Perhaps that was Kaine's intent.

And his repeated charges were largely statements taken out of context.

That was his intent.

The winner, and new champion ,
The Great Interrupter,

I think Kaine was so incensed by the lies, that in the absence of moderator fact-checking, he allowed himself to show his exasperation.

Go see the VA, no one has been fired after their systemic crippling of health care for veterans, and lying about it.

Contractors get no benefits, and can be fired.

To this day.